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#1 Phyrrus

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 12:30 AM

Hi all pilots from II Gruppe JG,

First of all, thank you Kleiber for solving my registration problem so fast :)

I am a new user and I registered mainly to get in contact with Mr Lowengrin and ask him for some help about his magnificinet mod DCG - a program which is my companion since one of the earliest releases back in 2004. I played the vanilla il2 sturmovik for almost 10 years now and used it only with DCG 2.61, and it worked fine all these years. Thank you for this, Lowegrin.

But now I decided to move on, and upgraded my game up to the latest vesion, and also with mods UP3 and DBW, sound mods etc. which required a new version of DCG also, the 3.47

Since then I am having small issues, wouldnt call them bugs - thats why I didnt post this under BUGS forum-, but minor annoyements. Copy of my post from DBW forum:

Everything works fine, missions are fine, pathways are fine, AI is good, except that DCG is keeping my records wrong. To be more specific, after 3-4 missions it doubles the count of my flown missions (ex: it shows 6 or 8 instead of 3 actually flown) and adds more kills to the record than I really shot down (like 22 planes shot instead of 10 really done) It counts some missions twice or three times. It starts counting wrong after I die once (until i get a "premonition of death" thing). I started over several times with different pilots ans settings, but the problem is the same. NOTE: I double checked this and I dont have to die for the program to start counting wrong, once happened that it doubled everything on my first mission and raised flown mission count to 4 :o

While I am writing this I can see that US_Grant offered a solution in the meantime on the DBW forum:

Well, I have used DCG several times and found I was having the same issue UNTIL, I started shutting DCG down in between missions.

Example:
Open DCG after 1st mission. Check stats make changes as needed, close DCG.
Fly second mission, Open DCG to check stats, rinse repeat.

That stopped my accelerated score counting. Also, make sure you are flying in normal mode and not fast mode or accelerated made which causes pilots to rack up many more sorties than actually flown. Normal mode has you flying two or three missions per day. Accelerated mode ha you flying one mission per day, but your squadron will fly missions without you.


I will try this, but I always fly missions on Normal of Slow time mode. I never thought about closing or opening DCG, it is offline/replaced /full auto mode, and I dont really modify anything, so it doesnt need to be running in the background. Or does it? I dunno.

What I do (and perhaps may cause problems) is that after I fly a mission and dont like the setup, I open it in mission editor and edit it to my taste, but I learned from previous versions that I never put in new airplanes - early versions never counted them in - so I only modify conditions, waypoints, maybe a few vechicles for more cinematics feeling, but I never touch the generated squadrons present in the mission.

Well, this is all the info I can give about this for now, ask me anything, I am no programmer so not very much into the technical details, but I will answer to anything if you can help me solve this issue. I am preparing to fly with my BF106-E a long Great campaing, which could take month or years to fly...

Thank you in advance,

Phyrrus

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#2 Nephris

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 10:06 AM

Does it happen within a vanilla campaign on Il2 1946 4.12.2 either?

My question comes from the pov that it is hard to pin down issues with certain mods as there are HSFX,DBW,UP3 and remaining ones you can create yourself wit hany mod act.
So actually it is hard to give support for issues with DCG on mods, just my opinion.

Some mod creators had the marvelous idea to fiddle around with logging, which of course creates wrong entries to the stats. You issue sounds close to that, as your stats are doubled.

To check if your issue is basically, or just mod related, try to reproduce the issue with a default DCG campaign on vanilla Il2.


Changing the actual generated mission file isnt the best way to influence the outcome.
Check the master mission file to add new vehilces , squadrons/airfields or statics.
How was it the masterfile you were changing and I just got ya wrong here?
Just in case I didnt, the mission masterfile will be found within the campaign folder.
E.g. in DCG/Master/XYZ_Campaign folder/xyz_campaign.mis (default DCG campaigns).

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 06:16 PM

I have experienced similar issue before. As far as I can remember, that was somewhat related to "refly" button. I remember someone said you are not supposed to refly your mission unless you are killed in the mission. Say you fly a mission and shot down 2 planes and isn't happy with the result. You click refly and shoot down 3 planes this time. When you are done, your stat will show 5 kills instead of the 3 your want. In another word, you can keep refly the same mission and got hundreds of kills if you wish to .

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 08:25 PM

Yep, also works the other way round: you can completely annihilate your squad by reflying the same mission again and again, each time losing a few squad members.
It's because DCG calculates kills and losses AFTER you exit the mission and BEFORE you get to the debrief.
There might be easier solutions (e.g. kill yourself before ending the mission), but the safest method is to alt-tab from IL-2 and shoot it down in Task Manager, if you're unsatisfied with your results.

#5 Phyrrus

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 12:55 PM

Does it happen within a vanilla campaign on Il2 1946 4.12.2 either?...

...To check if your issue is basically, or just mod related, try to reproduce the issue with a default DCG campaign on vanilla Il2.


Changing the actual generated mission file isnt the best way to influence the outcome.
Check the master mission file to add new vehilces , squadrons/airfields or statics.
How was it the masterfile you were changing and I just got ya wrong here?
Just in case I didnt, the mission masterfile will be found within the campaign folder.
E.g. in DCG/Master/XYZ_Campaign folder/xyz_campaign.mis (default DCG campaigns).


You're right, I will check this with vanilla IL2-1946, thank you. I have to make a copy then. I still have the original copy of Il2 sturmovik with dcg 2.6 wich works fine.

And yes, I was changing the actual mission file located in il2/missions/campaign/de/dgen/xvz/xz19400101.mis

but I only changed waypoints and a few vehicles passing by the runaway for a more cinematic feeling, but I guess I wont do that again :)



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Posted 09 November 2013 - 12:59 PM

I have experienced similar issue before. As far as I can remember, that was somewhat related to "refly" button. I remember someone said you are not supposed to refly your mission unless you are killed in the mission. Say you fly a mission and shot down 2 planes and isn't happy with the result. You click refly and shoot down 3 planes this time. When you are done, your stat will show 5 kills instead of the 3 your want. In another word, you can keep refly the same mission and got hundreds of kills if you wish to .


Thanks Pandacat, I tried this: not pushing Refly but going back to Main Menu, reload the career and fly gain, same thing.
Tried to figure out a pattern, but afaik there is no matematical pattern in how it counts the statistics, it seems to be totally random.


#7 Lowengrin

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 12:51 AM

As mentioned, DCG calculates losses, etc, when exiting the mission. So, if you want to refly the mission, best to crash your plane first (assuming you don't have the dead is dead option on). Someday, I should fix this, but someday never comes.




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