Jump to content


Photo

Hindsight Combat Evaluations in ROF


  • Please log in to reply
24 replies to this topic

#1 HotleadColdfeet

HotleadColdfeet

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 730 posts
  • LocationSouth Dakota, United States

Posted 13 March 2016 - 07:28 PM

Hey all!

 

I’ve had an idea that’s been growing on me for a while now. Ever since I upgraded to more-powerful PC, I’ve been using NVIDIA ShadowPlay to record a lot of the dogfights I’ve been in. After the action, I often review these to see where I could improve – what worked and what didn’t. Anyway, I thought it would be nice for others to learn from my experiences as well, so I’ve turned a few of them into videos. They will be part of a new series on my YouTube channel called “Hindsight Combat Evaluations.” I’ll release a new one each weekend for 4 weeks, starting now.

 

The purpose of these videos is to show the application (or lack thereof) of combat principles “in the heat of battle.” You’ll catch some of my awesome moments, some of my not-so-awesome moments, and everything in between as we take each video and break it down to learn from it. Also, I’d like to say that I am not the end-all be-all expert when it comes to my analysis of the videos. If you have input you would like to contribute, feel free to post below. I’m always ready to learn more. smile.png

 

Here is episode 1:

 

S! icon_e_salute.gif

- Hotlead


  • Klaiber, Hess, Luftritter and 2 others like this

"Flying fighter aircraft in a war zone is an experience of hours and hours of routine, punctuated by moments of stark terror." - Unknown
 fcpq25c.jpg


#2 Klaiber

Klaiber

    Advanced Member

  • Administrators
  • 8,725 posts

Posted 13 March 2016 - 10:53 PM

Great idea Hotlead!  Really enjoyed the video!


Klaiber_tiny_R.png?dl=0
Klaiber_tiny_O.png?dl=0
Klaiber_tiny_FS.png?dl=0

Hals - und Beinbruch!


#3 BH_Razwald

BH_Razwald

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 32 posts

Posted 14 March 2016 - 12:51 AM

A couple of things not being a part of JG1 proper not sure if I'm Suppose to stay in the FIF section only.

 

Second I also Record dogfights at times to evaluate myself but I use the in game feature. I don't do it during organized events heard it can screw up ping rate.

 

Now no evaluation from me but (for the most part). I have A question or two. At around the 1:48 mark you reload the over wing gun and the screen freezes. Is that something on your end, or was it the recording from Shadow Play.

 

On the replay because of the freeze you lost him for a bit. That's not good. I just updated my video card for the same reason. Couldn't ID stuff from far away and I would get freezes on my Track IR at times. It was old.

 

I don't know what Shadow play is, I can guess what it is. If it caused the screen freeze I would use it sparingly. If it was just a play back glitch I would continue using it.



#4 HotleadColdfeet

HotleadColdfeet

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 730 posts
  • LocationSouth Dakota, United States

Posted 14 March 2016 - 01:33 AM

A couple of things not being a part of JG1 proper not sure if I'm Suppose to stay in the FIF section only.

Second I also Record dogfights at times to evaluate myself but I use the in game feature. I don't do it during organized events heard it can screw up ping rate.

Now no evaluation from me but (for the most part). I have A question or two. At around the 1:48 mark you reload the over wing gun and the screen freezes. Is that something on your end, or was it the recording from Shadow Play.

On the replay because of the freeze you lost him for a bit. That's not good. I just updated my video card for the same reason. Couldn't ID stuff from far away and I would get freezes on my Track IR at times. It was old.

I don't know what Shadow play is, I can guess what it is. If it caused the screen freeze I would use it sparingly. If it was just a play back glitch I would continue using it.

Hi Razwald!

The freeze would be a glitch from ShadowPlay. I've been using it for a year now, and never had it impact game performance. I love ShadowPlay because it's so simple: if something memorable happens, just hit a hotkey and your last 5 mins of flight are recorded in a few seconds. However, this does mean that there might be the occasional stutter in the playback file. ;)

S!
- Hotlead

"Flying fighter aircraft in a war zone is an experience of hours and hours of routine, punctuated by moments of stark terror." - Unknown
 fcpq25c.jpg


#5 Britchot

Britchot

    Advanced Member

  • Administrators
  • 3,547 posts
  • LocationLancaster, CA

Posted 14 March 2016 - 02:02 AM

A couple of things not being a part of JG1 proper not sure if I'm Suppose to stay in the FIF section only.


Nah mate, if you can read it you're more than welcome to reply to it. That also goes for new topics, you're more than welcome to be part of the community.

Britchot_R_tiny.png?dl=0

Britchot_O_tiny.png?dl=0

Britchot_FS_tiny.png?dl=0

   "Es ist noch ein Meister vom Himmel gefallen."


#6 Hess

Hess

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 524 posts

Posted 14 March 2016 - 11:46 AM

S! Guys!

 

Congrats Hotlead. I loved it. By the way I subscribed your channel.


  • HotleadColdfeet likes this

Bis Bald!
 

hess_jointsig2.png


#7 Barton

Barton

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 969 posts

Posted 14 March 2016 - 03:14 PM

The freezes only happen when you record passively. Actively recording I've never had it freeze on me.

This is a great video! I'm glad and thankful for you taking the time to produce it and share with everyone.

One recommendation I have is a bit more in depth debriefing where you point out exactly where you made your mistakes, why they were mistakes, and what you should have done instead.

For instance:

Granted I'm watching this on my cell phone, but it looked as though you could have gotten a little closer before opening fire. There's no need to spoil your element of surprise by firing too early. Get in close and make them count. Also, I like to dive in on unsuspecting prey as it allows you to close much faster and gives you an better angle to hit vital systems or the pilot. However you didn't start with a lot of altitude to begin with so this wasn't much of an option, but you also could have dove slightly below his tail into his blind spot. This would have greatly increased your close rate and possibly allowed you to stay undetected until you were in prime position. This would have slowed you down during your attack, allowing more time to fire as your rate of overshoot would be lessened. The trade off here is that you would have less kinetic energy for the ensuing fight. Still, the bounce was good.

The first big mistake was obviously split essing into the alb as he went under you (twice). You should have stayed high and tried to maintain your position directly above him through a high yo-yo. You got lucky that the Alb pilot stayed defensive and kept blowing his energy trying to evade attacks you weren't going to get in. If he had realized your mistake and gone offensive by using his superior turn rate he could have forced you to put your nose down and disengage. Which brings us to the last and most egregious error.

When you lost sight of your enemy you put your nose up to climb. This blew all of your airspeed in trade for very little altitude. You should have kept your nose down to extend away and climbed only when you knew you were safe. Even when you saw the Alb behind you you still kept your nose up and stayed a slow and easy target. The second you saw him behind you you should have hit the deck and ran like hell. Luckily you still managed to do this (better late than never) and survive.

Even if you don't produce videos it is still a good thing to record fights and go back to review them. I've often found myself disappointed for not seeing and taking advantage of openings or failing in ways I thought I knew better. It's an integral part of getting better and I'm glad that your sharing with everyone.


Looking forward to more!

S!
  • HotleadColdfeet likes this

#8 Luftritter

Luftritter

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,053 posts

Posted 14 March 2016 - 03:34 PM

I love watching flight videos almost more than flying in the sim itself.  Thanks Hotlead, and keep 'em coming, all!

 

PS, that video was obviously made before you became an expert in the SE5a during FiF XXIII   :)   Admirable of you to post that one as opposed to all those other victorious ones   :lol:   S!


  • HotleadColdfeet likes this

"People who believe they are ignorant of nothing have neither looked for, nor stumbled upon, the boundary between what is known and unknown in the universe."  -Neil deGrasse Tyson


#9 US103_Hunter

US103_Hunter

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 62 posts
  • LocationOhio

Posted 14 March 2016 - 03:57 PM

you just got a subscriber! I look forward to more of these.

 

vK


  • HotleadColdfeet likes this

#10 J2_Marx

J2_Marx

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 36 posts

Posted 14 March 2016 - 04:35 PM

My english isn't too bad but what does Hindsight mean if i my ask? never heard of it :unsure:



#11 Klaiber

Klaiber

    Advanced Member

  • Administrators
  • 8,725 posts

Posted 14 March 2016 - 04:40 PM

If you're Dutch, hindsight is like "achteraf gezien".  A looking back.  :)

 

http://www.learnersd...ition/hindsight


Klaiber_tiny_R.png?dl=0
Klaiber_tiny_O.png?dl=0
Klaiber_tiny_FS.png?dl=0

Hals - und Beinbruch!


#12 HotleadColdfeet

HotleadColdfeet

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 730 posts
  • LocationSouth Dakota, United States

Posted 14 March 2016 - 05:25 PM

Thanks guys! :) Also, thank-you to Barton for his tactical input. I really appreciated it. :)

I love watching flight videos almost more than flying in the sim itself.  Thanks Hotlead, and keep 'em coming, all!

 

PS, that video was obviously made before you became an expert in the SE5a during FiF XXIII   :)   Admirable of you to post that one as opposed to all those other victorious ones   :lol:   S!

I hardly feel like an Se5a expert lol. I still have much to learn. ;) But thank you for the kind words, LR. :)


  • Luftritter likes this

"Flying fighter aircraft in a war zone is an experience of hours and hours of routine, punctuated by moments of stark terror." - Unknown
 fcpq25c.jpg


#13 J2_Marx

J2_Marx

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 36 posts

Posted 15 March 2016 - 04:03 PM

If you're Dutch, hindsight is like "achteraf gezien".  A looking back.  :)

 

http://www.learnersd...ition/hindsight

 

 

Thanx Klaiber and yes i'm Dutch, liking it and very very proud  :lol:  :P


  • Klaiber and HotleadColdfeet like this

#14 HotleadColdfeet

HotleadColdfeet

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 730 posts
  • LocationSouth Dakota, United States

Posted 19 March 2016 - 11:27 PM

Here's the next episode:


  • Klaiber, Barton and Lipfert like this

"Flying fighter aircraft in a war zone is an experience of hours and hours of routine, punctuated by moments of stark terror." - Unknown
 fcpq25c.jpg


#15 Klaiber

Klaiber

    Advanced Member

  • Administrators
  • 8,725 posts

Posted 20 March 2016 - 04:07 PM

The second episode is great Hotlead!  Very well done.  And nice shooting too!


  • HotleadColdfeet likes this

Klaiber_tiny_R.png?dl=0
Klaiber_tiny_O.png?dl=0
Klaiber_tiny_FS.png?dl=0

Hals - und Beinbruch!


#16 Luftritter

Luftritter

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,053 posts

Posted 20 March 2016 - 08:13 PM

Nice...you did everything perfectly.

 

Also you showed real CLASS:

 

1) You blanked out the name of the person you shot down.  Classy!

2) You didn't even show when you shot the other three down    :lol:


  • Klaiber and HotleadColdfeet like this

"People who believe they are ignorant of nothing have neither looked for, nor stumbled upon, the boundary between what is known and unknown in the universe."  -Neil deGrasse Tyson


#17 Barton

Barton

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 969 posts

Posted 21 March 2016 - 01:32 AM

Good video! Great job waiting until you had an opening to attack and then get out alive.

I had a similar situation with 4 Camels while flying a D.VIIF and without using that thing's ability to run and climb I would have been torn to shreds.
  • HotleadColdfeet likes this

#18 HotleadColdfeet

HotleadColdfeet

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 730 posts
  • LocationSouth Dakota, United States

Posted 28 March 2016 - 12:18 AM

Thank you guys! Here's episode 3:

 

Happy Easter everyone! :)

- Hotlead


  • Hess and Lipfert like this

"Flying fighter aircraft in a war zone is an experience of hours and hours of routine, punctuated by moments of stark terror." - Unknown
 fcpq25c.jpg


#19 Vonrd

Vonrd

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 975 posts
  • LocationOakland, CA

Posted 28 March 2016 - 01:17 AM

That was a good fight Hotlead! I felt that we were doing everything right (except my gunnery could have been better and I was doing only head on passes... still it kept him from turning on you, he had to address my pass each time). If not for the weak Dolphin wings, he would be done. (I can't recall what happened to him afterwards).

 

Salute!


  • HotleadColdfeet likes this
Posted ImagePosted Image

#20 Klaiber

Klaiber

    Advanced Member

  • Administrators
  • 8,725 posts

Posted 28 March 2016 - 01:46 PM

Great video Hotlead!


Klaiber_tiny_R.png?dl=0
Klaiber_tiny_O.png?dl=0
Klaiber_tiny_FS.png?dl=0

Hals - und Beinbruch!





0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users