tomoose Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 I've posted this in a couple of the other forums. It may be an old issue that everyone's already aware of but I couldn't find any similar postings on this issue so this is my solution for what it's worth.First off let me stress that this is NOT a static.ini problem so shouldn't be seen as a solution for that type of problem. There are posts regarding using static.ini checker which should be consulted in that particular case. The problem described below may in fact be unique to our particular set up but again, perhaps others have similar problems and if this helps then great.OK, a bit of background to understand the issue...I created from scratch a US Fighter campaign for DCG using the Western Front Generic map and HSFX. I am not a DCG expert so we have been adjusting/tweaking the campaign as our little group progresses. Overall, the campaign itself works and is progressing fairly well.THE PROBLEM: After generating a mission for the campaign in DCG we wanted to check a couple of things "on the ground" but could not get it to open in FMB. The map would appear with various aircraft flight paths and the little pop up window stating "Mission Loading". The mission would NOT completely load however. The little pop up would just sit there. None of the other objects (e.g. static, vehicles, Triggers) would appear. Not wanting to compromise the originally generated mission we would simply close out FMB and leave it alone.THE SOLUTION: I was fairly confident that the static.ini was good because we were all using the same version of HSFX with no "external" additional mods that hadn't come with HSFX so all the objects etc should be good to go. I was convinced that the problem was related to something else. So I did some digging on my own using Notepad by looking at the .mis files that were being generated to see if there were any anomalies in the actual text lines.After scanning the text of the .mis file in Notepad I noticed that, for whatever bizarre reason, DCG had stuck a Static entry in the middle of the flight path coordinates of a flight, almost always in the Landing line. e.g. there would be "Static_103" stuck arbitrarily in one of the flight path lines. It would always be after the map grid coordinates data and before the other data in the line. I know where a ground target entry should be in the flightpath coordinates and eliminated that aspect. I have no idea why this happens but have assumed it's DCG vs a non-stock version of IL2 when it's calculating the data for a mission.I understand the syntax required by the flightpath lines in the .mis file so I knew what part of the line I could safely delete.So I cleaned up the .mis file checked again with FMB but no joy. Still not loading completely in FMB. WTH?? So back to the .mis file and after careful scanning of the lines again I discovered a not-so-obvious error in that DCG had inserted a couple of incorrect &0 entries. There were a couple of lines in the flightpaths that had a &0 immediately followed by a &1. I noticed that in older .mis files there is only ever one incident of the & per line, it is either a &1 or a &0, not both. Sooooo.......I did a search for all "&0 &1" and replaced with "&1" only and bingo, the mission loads normally in FMBAgain, this could be unique to our specific scratch-built campaign but if it happened to us it might happen to someone else so I'm tossing this solution out there and hopefully it will provide a BINGO moment for someone who is pulling their hair out with a similar issue. If someone knows why DCG does this, I'd be curious as to the explanation and if there's already a known workaround.cheers,TomooseP.S. Even without the solution mentioned here, the problematic missions will still work with no problem at all (i.e. our group can fly them with no issues). It's only accessing via FMB that is prevented by these "typos". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowengrin Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 Hi, I have some questions for you. In your campaign template file (the mission file used to generate the campaign), do you have a static_103? If so, what is it? As for the "&0 &1", are you using the airfields.dcg file for your campaign? If so, note that it only has the first five fields/columns. If you're not using the airfields.dcg file, you may have just found a bug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomoose Posted August 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 Lowengrin; I do have the airfields.dcg file for the campaign and I just had a look and some of the airfields lines end in &0 but most of them don't. Is that part of the problem? What does the &0 or &1 indicate at the end of a line? I just used an arbitrary number for the static example in my original post. I just generated a mission and Static entries popped up in the Landing lines for various squadrons as follows; It only happens to RED (US) side, none of the BLUE (GERMAN) squads have this issue in the file. LANDING 39824.24 231202.39 0 0 21_Static 0 0 &0 LANDING 39824.24 231202.39 0 0 21_Static 0 0 21_Static 0 0 &0 LANDING 50615.21 329746.84 0 0 678_Static 0 0 679_Static 0 0 &1 LANDING 50615.21 329746.84 0 0 678_Static 0 0 679_Static 0 0 678_Static 0 0 679_Static 0 0 &1 LANDING 50778.82 329363.02 0 0 678_Static 0 0 679_Static 0 0 &1 TAKEOFF 7586.48 273182.88 0 0 677_Static 0 &1 LANDING 7586.48 273182.88 0 0 677_Static 0 0 &1 The Static numbers curiously are all ships. I hadn't noticed that. 21_Static ships.Ship$RwyTranspSqr 1 39255.25 230797.33 718.49 0.0 0 2 1.0 677_Static ships.Ship$RwyTransp 1 6972.33 273466.95 560.00 0.0 0 2 1.0 678_Static ships.Ship$RwyTransp 1 50662.99 329093.79 620.00 0.0 0 2 1.0 679_Static ships.Ship$RwyTransp 1 50778.82 329363.02 575.00 0.0 0 2 1.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idefix44 Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 This seems to be a story about Test Runway objects that are Stationary Ships and the squadrons linked to... But, may be am I wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowengrin Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 That &0/&1 relates to whether radios are turned on or off. The airfields.dcg was designed prior to the radio feature so these should be deleted from any airfield flight patterns. As idefix44 has noted, the static "ships" are really test runway objects. The six types are: Ship$RwyCon Ship$RwySteel Ship$RwySteelLow Ship$RwyTransp Ship$RwyTranspWide Ship$RwyTranspSqr In your campaign, I assume the planes are tied to squadrons assigned to these runways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomoose Posted August 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 I didn't put two and two together until idefix mentioned the fact that the "ships" are in fact runways. I feel kinda stupid now,.....d'oh!!!! Yes I tied a couple of the squadrons to these runways because on the WF44 maps, despite the visual existing of more than one runway at an airfield (i.e. Raydon IIRC) only one of the runways is actually designated a proper runway in the map. I took a test runway and lined it up with one of the other runways which didn't have the designated symbols on the map if you get my meaning. On the subject of test runways, we found out the hardway that each one of them has an "edge" or "dropoff" which when you leave the test runway will usually result in either a noticeable bounce of the aircraft or, as in the case of Testrunway 1, a large drop off which will destroy your aircraft, LOL. I know they weren't intended to be used like that but I thought I'd give it a shot. I will remove the & info from the airfields.dcg file and see if that improves things. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomoose Posted August 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 OK, quick update. I deleted the 'extra' &0 entries in the airfields.dcg file and the .mis file generated did not have any incorrect entries. However, the test runway 'static' entries in the Landing lines must be removed in order to open the .mis file in FMB. Lowengrin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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