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#21 Luftritter

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Posted 02 July 2018 - 01:04 PM

 ....Also, the FAA is bleeding due to the old school retiring. Lots of opportunities and right now is a boom time (not like when I started....

 

Guilty, as charged   :P

 

Hard to beat the money in the FAA, you should have veteran's preference, benefits (health, retirement, etc), they send you to their own schools, even pay the lodging and travel, and the job security is second to none.  The thing is they want experience, so if you have some from the military, talk yourself up and get your foot in the door.


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Posted 02 July 2018 - 02:50 PM

This is all absolutely incredible advice, and I feel so fortunate to have this insight from the group. Thank you all for the immense help. I am registered to the School and hav spoken at length with the VA Leasion who is really very good, and have successfully applied to and accept to the school. The next step is getting registered, and that also means I have to import my credits. Thankfully, I was able to complete an Associate's degree through the Air Force while I was in. I'm hoping thise credits will transfer in nicely.

I'll try to brush up on the math though as it's been a LONG time. I am very interested in speaking with the maintenance guys down there at the airport, and I also know that the most of the instructors are through Moore Aviation. I am not really sure if that's a good thing or not, but maybe you guys can make heads or tails of it.

The one drawback to this particular degree program is that the VA dropped a TON of the aviation repated degrees to basically all the schools in the US. There were issues with smaller schools closing before students finished their licenses, but the VA had already paid out in full for the program. This prompted them to drop every school in the nation besides three, which were the ones that own their own aircraft. Now obviously, not many schools can own their own aircraft so the VA has started accepting appeals from the schools as long as they are FAA 141 certified. Now CCBC is not only 141 certified, but also 144, and 146 as well, and they always had those certifications. The VA lady at the school has been giving me updates on their appeal process, and it's looking very good. She seems to be very much on top of it. She is new as of last year however, my brother-in-law, also a vet (we worked together in the AF), is currently in a nursing program which she has pushed some things through the VA to improve the benifits for this program. I have a good feeling about this old retired Army gal, she has been doing good work.

Other schools here in Pennsylvania that are in similar circumstances have successfully appealed their programs. Unfortunately, this won't be done in time for this fall semester, but thankfully I should be able to avoid having to take a lot of general education classes that I'll be transferring in. This should allow me to only have to cover my flight costs. I am also waiting to be seen by the VA for my medical claims which could provide me with some benifits that will cover this semester anyhow.
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Posted 02 July 2018 - 02:58 PM

Shadepiece,

 

This is a great online resource from brushing up on math skills.

 

https://www.khanacademy.org/

 

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Posted 02 July 2018 - 04:47 PM

As a veteran, you’re in-state everywhere in the country as far as tuition rates go. Unless there a compelling reason for staying in Western PA, you really should consider other options as well, especially if you already gave an associates.

U North Dakota, Purdue and Embry Riddle immediately come to mind. North Dakota has 120 airplanes and is a full up 4 year university (many airlines require a 4year degree on top of all the ratings).
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Posted 02 July 2018 - 06:52 PM

If you have any questions about FAA Tech Ops, don't hesitate to call me.  I'm not sure of your technical background or qualifications, if any, from the military; or if you're even interested in that kind of career field.  One thing that I can tell you is that the Gov't generally doesn't screw people the way some companies do.  It's not that they don't enact changes; but normally they only do it for people coming in after the changes are enacted, not retroactively.  That's been their history; but I'm not saying that it couldn't be "Trumped" by some new policies.

 

You could also be an Air Traffic Controller.  Job opportunities are nation-wide.  They have a separate union (NATCA: National Air Traffic Controller's Association) and a better deal than Tech Ops (PASS: Professional Airways Systems Specialists).  However, I've seen what they do and worked hand-in-hand with them.  I would only want to try it at a low-volume facility.  That said, a lot of people do it and I believe you can retire in 20-25 years....no age limit.  I worked 34 years because of the lower age limit.  And I will also say this: the high volume facilities are always the first to get the newest and best equipment, and get higher priority when it comes to modernizing and renovating their facilities.  The people that work at those places think the entire FAA is like that, LOL.  If they only knew.

 

I am in tight with some pretty high-ups in the CSA (Central Service Area: HQ: Fort Worth, TX), but unfortunately, they just retired.  However, I can check with my buddy and put in a good word if there's a position open somewhere that they have influence in.

 

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Posted 06 July 2018 - 12:33 AM

S! Shadepiece,

 

I just bought the REP expansion 172 and Xplane11.

I'll try to setup the game and some more apps this weekend.

I was too late for the special on REP (Reality Expansion Pack) for the 172, but got Xplane11 in special.

 

Cheers,

Gen ;)



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Posted 06 July 2018 - 04:48 PM

I don't think you'll regret it Gen! I finally got it up in the air a couple nights ago, and wow was it cool! I have done a lot of studying on proper procedures on the ground, during takeoff, and on landing, and I was able to do all of those things nearly flawlessly first time!! I am pretty happy with the whole experience!
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Posted 15 July 2018 - 07:09 AM

Hey gents,

Might have found a place to move into today thank god. Also, I will be going up in a 172 in real life for the first time on Monday! I will report in with how it went.
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Posted 16 July 2018 - 09:10 PM

Well gents it was absolutely amazing! Definitely had a chance to take the controls a bit and get a good feel for the aircraft. A lot more movement than in the sims that's for sure, but wow what a thrill.
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#30 GenMarkof007

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Posted 16 July 2018 - 09:13 PM

S! Shadepiece,

 

I do remember that first day... and yes,  lot more movement than in the sims!!! ;)

 

Cheers,

Gen ;)


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Posted 18 July 2018 - 12:28 AM

Being a system check pilot would be sweet. 


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Posted 18 July 2018 - 12:33 AM

Well gents it was absolutely amazing! Definitely had a chance to take the controls a bit and get a good feel for the aircraft. A lot more movement than in the sims that's for sure, but wow what a thrill.

What? I got to take off on my first flight. You been cheated LOL. 


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Posted 18 July 2018 - 03:34 PM

He did let me take off! I just didn't pull back on the yoke enough to get it off the deck so he assisted. He did handle the rudder though. You can't beat the price of that discovery flight though, FREE! For students of the school it was free for the first flight. Now going to check out the other school to see how I like them on Friday! Although, that will be in a Diamond Da20.
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Posted 18 July 2018 - 03:35 PM

I'm going to post a full write up with some pics later today after I get them off my phone!
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Posted 18 July 2018 - 03:53 PM

Personally I have not flown a Diamond, but I hear they like to float forever and are stupid critical with landing speeds


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Posted 19 July 2018 - 12:49 AM

I fly a DA-40 quite often and they do float a lot due to the high aspect, low wing but maintaining the approach speed is easy.  It is a very stable and forgiving airplane and handling reminds me of the gliders that I fly.  The only thing I don't like about the Diamond is the castoring nosewheel.   It's harder to taxi than the MiG-21bis in DCS. 


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Posted 19 July 2018 - 07:59 AM

Diamond airplanes are great !!! 

 

...well, the only diamond product I flew so far was as a co-pilot on a super-dimona long long time ago. And after that 10 minutes of flying actively in the air I cannot tell a lot about its behaviour but there are 2 important facts that makes them great planes:

 

1st: They have pilot sticks instead of control wheels 

2nd: They are austrian products which makes them great per definition  :P

 

The airfield where I learned flying on my families motor glider was located directly next to that airfield where Diamond has it's HQ  ;)


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Posted 19 July 2018 - 03:03 PM

1st: They have pilot sticks instead of control wheels 

2nd: They are austrian products which makes them great per definition  :P

 

This^

 

I certainly do not prefer flying a yoke much anymore.  The planes I regularly fly are the DA-40, Citabria, Decathlon, ASK-21, Grob 102, Piper Pawnee... and for my commercial, the Cessna 182RG.  So 1 out of 7 have a yoke :P

 

I absolutely love Austria! I had a fleeting opportunity to work in Wien for Scheibel Gmbh back in 2001, I flew their CAMCOPTER 5.1 for the US subsidiary for a number of months.  I had spent 3 weeks in Wien writing the Operator's Manual and flying the helicopter, it was a pretty tough decision at the time.  Wien is my second favorite European city to Nuremberg, though I still plan to visit Constanta for a vacation. ;)


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Posted 19 July 2018 - 06:12 PM

To be honest the yoke didn't throw me off as much as I thought it would, but I really can't wait to get some actual stick time to see if it feels more natural. This flight, and the one from Monday will have a significant bearing on what I end up training in, as I have the option. However, once started I can't switch mid way which I was hoping to split my hours between the two as I think diversity in experience can go a long way.

I am very excited to see how everything goes tomorrow. I tried uploading a photo from my phone but it didn't seem to stick for some reason. I'll have to get them sorted somehow because, I'm very interested in sharing with you all!
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Posted 19 July 2018 - 09:02 PM

For your initial certification, just stick with the one plane and learn how aerodynamics affect you floating through the air. If you make this part of your lifestyle, you’ll fly a variety over time.

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