IRFC Hawkeye

This is the discussions thread, not the submissions thread.  He's just making them available to view for approval.

https://airandspace.si.edu/stories/editorial/preserving-flak-bait-reversing-1970s-restoration
Thought this was a really interesting article.

And here it is from my perspective:
 

With 23 dated 2013, you must have originally got it before then....is that the case?  Anyway he'll know soon enough....there's no reason he can't check it right now, why wait?  It's not like the old unit would quit working if updating to 23 turns out to be necessary.

Care to elaborate?  Isn't that plane supposed to be subject to high speed compressibility stall?

With 23 dated 2013, you must have originally got it before then....is that the case?  Anyway he'll know soon enough....there's no reason he can't check it right now, why wait?  It's not like the old unit would quit working if updating to 23 turns out to be necessary.

Not sure how old the required firmware is....but I did install the latest that was available at the time I replaced the mainboard.  So it may already be good.  EDIT: I see in the video that the date of the required ver. 23 firmware is 09/10/2013.  So you're almost certainly already good to go.
Looks like you would just need the firmware updater from the website, and that will tell you what you currently have (see the above video).  Apparently you don't need T.A.R.G.E.T. for that aspect.  I would say that if the original slew worked in-game without T.A.R.G.E.T., the new device should work too.
Probably safest to only have the throttle plugged in when you do it (unplug the joystick).  And if updating, use a USB 2.0 port, like Lipfert said.  But there is little chance that any of that is necessary.

Square, like my head.

Which gate did you end up liking better?

I would have to verify, but I’m pretty sure I went with the circular.
I did this about a year ago and haven’t been happier.  I believe Trev did. his late last year, as well. 

Kameraden,
Never been happy with the slew axis on my Warthog, so I did this today and am happy to report it's well worth it. Going to come in handy for all sorts of functions in the pit, if you've got this throttle I recommend it.
The Mod

Before

In progress

Complete

Where I got it
Delta Sim Website
Good post about the install and configuration
 
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I agree with EVERYTHING Ludwig says. My experience... Pitts S2b, Extra 300, Pilatus PC-7, L-39, Decathlon and Citabria. 
When I began aerobatics 4-5g sustained was my limit but after 10 or so hours I could sustain 6 easily. More than that I would fuzz out but it was not sudden and easily calmed by reducing G for just a few seconds. In the Extra we routinely pulled more than 9g momentarily. (I routinely had to do over G inspections of the Extra because they didn't re-set the G meter and I was legally bound to do it when I saw the meter pegged at 10G. Never saw any problems with the plane though... well, except for overstressed landing gear components... but that has nothing to do with Gs... it's tricky to land).
I second what he says about negative Gs... it f**cn HURTS. That, I never got accustomed to.
Bottom line, I think we agree that the way it's modeled is not correct... much to sudden for the GLOC in my opinion.
"PS... as to the AIR COMBAT guys that take you up in a trainer and let you fly against someone else... great stuff... lots of fun, not too terribly expensive...  but look up the safety record because more than a few of those operators have been involved in fatal crashes due to the aircraft breaking up from excessive G loading. Those are the companies that you won't find in business any more (spelled wrongful death lawsuit)  which came after losing their aircraft."
Good advice for anything related to flying. I would also suggest looking into a well reputed aerobatic flight school. Take an intro flight. The instructors are trained in how to assess the student's (passenger's) comfort level. They will gladly take it as far as you want (but if you hurl... you might be cleaning the cockpit 🙄...

If you want to see it done properly... give CLoD a try... the modeling there is really pretty darn good. 
I have flown numerous biplanes and spray planes, the T-6 Texan and the P-51D along with the T-38 and the F-16. I discount the jets because of the G suit involved... the principles remain exactly the same but the G suit obviously is a game changer and the forces are more easily achieved. 
We routinely gave rides in the PT-17 Stearman and the T-6 and it was great fun to give the guy a considerable ride. The physiology is pretty basic, the distance between the head and the heart is what it is all about. A long tall Texan will drop out faster than a short fat guy that eats a lot of red meat. High blood pressure will keep you alert (assuming you don't pop your cork) better than a taller, skinny person. Your head location makes a difference as well. If you are turning and twisting your head around you can side-load your self and THAT will become really apparent SUPER fast.  In jets you actually let go of the throttle quadrant and slam your hand on the canopy so you can force yourself up and back to wedge your helmet against the canopy and seat in order to see better and take some of the load off your neck. Your straps won't let you move much but you have probably loosened up some by that point. (They don't show you THAT in the movies) 
Fast onset...  sure... it can happen but it also is typically the first pull and you are at  your strongest and you recover quickly assuming you don't go under, but typically you see the onset and react. Sure, there are lots of videos out there of guys in jets that drop like a stone and the IP has to take the jet, but again force multipliers here and G suits. Typically if you are involved in ACM you are limited to 6 Gs and if you exceed it, you are really close to bending the jet which will get you a visit to the head shed. 
The more you pull, over a period of time the more debilitated you become and therefore more likely to go under. All kinds of stories about guys trimming their plane nose up when making a high speed pass with a pull up so if they blacked out the plane would tend to climb and slow down and allow them time to recover. I heard these stories... but...…   yeah... maybe... don't know.. I wasn't there.  Of course the Stuka and the Ju-88 had a preset pull up... which was really pretty clever and is actually modeled in CLoD. 
What I saw Barton subjected to was silly...  that in NO way represents anything close to what it is.  You PULL G's.....emphasis on the PULL... it is a LOAD. Your arm weighs 20+ lbs and you pull 4 G's  you are curling 80lbs.   I can't do that. You can hang on to your stick...and support 80-100 lbs... I can do that...  how much control and how precise can you be at such loading??? NOT MUCH...   that is akin to being shot to pieces in RoF and still able to fly AND AIM and hit a moving target.   What a load that is.... (no pun intended) 
We could routinely pull 3 Gs on the girls/ladies that went for a ride and they giggled and complained 4-5 Gs and they were ready to go back and land. Don't forget though that it is cumulative... and I you are pulling 3-4 SUSTAINED Gs that is way tougher than 5-6 Gs for only a couple of seconds.  If you pull 6 Gs in a WWII fighter, you are really close to bending something, and the P-51 was famous for losing the use of some MGs because of G loading. The force would be great enough to bend the feeder chute for the ammo belt and allow the belt to misfeed. If you have ordinance on the wings, or fuel tanks.... ouch.... and the F-86 was famous for one tank dropping and the other not....look THAT up sometime...  some pretty hairy stories of guys getting back to base with one tank hanging.
All in all... it was not that much of an issue or problem or you would read more about it.  Desperate times call for desperate measures so sure, some times you had to push the envelope or the end result was going to be the same and if you were stronger than the other guy you might get away with it...  but simply put...  IL-2 G loading is porked. 
Shame on them for allowing it to be so far wrong.  AND... if you want to see something even worse... try NEGATIVE Gs…   anything more than 1 -G will make you pray for death. It is horribly painful, and you feel like your head will explode, and you would be grateful if it did. They usually keep negative Gs out of the sim by limiting the performance of the plane (W-R-O-N-G) and not by the -G induced forces on the pilot.  RoF was terrible about this, you could NEVER push over even when you were slow and the loading was minimal. You might lose the engine but the plane still performed as it should...but in RoF… they just flat limited your ability to push over rapidly.  Watch the guy at the airshow fly vertical into a hammerhead and just before he gets to the top, he pushes over in a tight vertical outside maneuver. 
PS... as to the AIR COMBAT guys that take you up in a trainer and let you fly against someone else... great stuff... lots of fun, not too terribly expensive...  but look up the safety record because more than a few of those operators have been involved in fatal crashes due to the aircraft breaking up from excessive G loading. Those are the companies that you won't find in business any more (spelled wrongful death lawsuit)  which came after losing their aircraft.
 

As during last weeks several pilots joined who are interested in Il2 BoX and/or FC => yet another good chance to fill up the portfolio of planes and scenarios:
https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/58774-leap-into-the-cockpit-sale-is-on-feb-17th-mar-9th-bobp-fc-and-more/
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I went on a roller coaster once.  Well, ok, a kiddie coaster.   I passed out.

I guessed wrong....was looking at the tach.  Strange how one moves clockwise, and the other moves counter-clockwise.  Anyway just wanted to see what speed you were at when you started evasive maneuvers.

Apparently I've been rendered non-compliant

Apparently I've been rendered non-compliant

@Jaus, well there is Good Better and Best. I'm sorry.
The Jasta 10 Albatros as we have painted it, has the horz and vert stabilizer painted in black and the rudder and elevator in yellow. Would you be so kind to make that change?
Looking forward to Best!

That's exactly correct; I just tried it and the game worked perfectly in QMB.
BTW if you want to try this, don't delete your skins folder.  Just rename it temporarily by adding one character to the name of the "skins" folder.  As far as the game's concerned, it's no longer there.  When done, just rename the skins folder again correctly by deleting that one character.  Simple.

That's exactly correct; I just tried it and the game worked perfectly in QMB.
BTW if you want to try this, don't delete your skins folder.  Just rename it temporarily by adding one character to the name of the "skins" folder.  As far as the game's concerned, it's no longer there.  When done, just rename the skins folder again correctly by deleting that one character.  Simple.

That's exactly correct; I just tried it and the game worked perfectly in QMB.
BTW if you want to try this, don't delete your skins folder.  Just rename it temporarily by adding one character to the name of the "skins" folder.  As far as the game's concerned, it's no longer there.  When done, just rename the skins folder again correctly by deleting that one character.  Simple.

That's exactly correct; I just tried it and the game worked perfectly in QMB.
BTW if you want to try this, don't delete your skins folder.  Just rename it temporarily by adding one character to the name of the "skins" folder.  As far as the game's concerned, it's no longer there.  When done, just rename the skins folder again correctly by deleting that one character.  Simple.