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FC's Pfalz D.XII


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21 hours ago, Klaiber said:

I like it. :D

 

I quite fancy it as well after flying it a little bit! She'll be an acquired taste though! 
 

17 hours ago, Pfeil said:

Great for chasing Spads in 3k

A friendly word of advice regarding chasing SPADs...if their' roundels look like this: 

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...don't catch up  😉

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I really haven't extensively tested it, but I did get one initial sortie in on Flugpark this past Sunday with it. Here's my initial impressions (in no particular order):

  • The D.XII doesn't feel like it has as great a climb rate as it did in ROF, but that may just be the new physics engine
  • It's still a fairly stable gun platform
  • I didn't try to coax it into a spin, but it felt like the same stall mechanics were present. Thus, the near-irrecoverable spin probably is still there.
  • The graphics look GORGEOUS! 😍
  • It's still fast 😎
  • It has difficulties in prolonged dives; I tried diving on a N.28 on Sunday and midway through my dive, the nose started fighting me and the aircraft started to shake around dangerously. 

I haven't tested the DM on it, but time will soon tell. If I had to wager a guess, I'll bet the already weak wings from ROF won't be getting any better... 🙃

All in all, it's a serviceable plane. I view it like the N.28 as we have it now; it can be a killer, but it is no easy ride.

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3 hours ago, HotleadColdfeet said:

I really haven't extensively tested it, but I did get one initial sortie in on Flugpark this past Sunday with it. Here's my initial impressions (in no particular order):

  • The D.XII doesn't feel like it has as great a climb rate as it did in ROF, but that may just be the new physics engine
  • It's still a fairly stable gun platform
  • I didn't try to coax it into a spin, but it felt like the same stall mechanics were present. Thus, the near-irrecoverable spin probably is still there.
  • The graphics look GORGEOUS! 😍
  • It's still fast 😎
  • It has difficulties in prolonged dives; I tried diving on a N.28 on Sunday and midway through my dive, the nose started fighting me and the aircraft started to shake around dangerously. 

I haven't tested the DM on it, but time will soon tell. If I had to wager a guess, I'll bet the already weak wings from ROF won't be getting any better... 🙃

All in all, it's a serviceable plane. I view it like the N.28 as we have it now; it can be a killer, but it is no easy ride.

The spin is still there and the hardest part was forcing the spin. My instincts kept breaking the stall before I entered it.

A refresher for left spin recovery: idle, stick forward into the spin with opposite rudder. If you enter a full spin, engine OFF, stick forward into the spin with opposite rudder. If you had to shut the engine off once you break the spin engine on nose down to get the prop to kick the engine over. 

At 100% fuel I lost 2000m total doing this. 50% fuel I lost 1000m doing this. So either my technique got better or the lighter fuel helps speed the recovery up.

Regardless don't stall left near the ground.

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14 hours ago, HotleadColdfeet said:

I really haven't extensively tested it, but I did get one initial sortie in on Flugpark this past Sunday with it. Here's my initial impressions (in no particular order):

  • The D.XII doesn't feel like it has as great a climb rate as it did in ROF, but that may just be the new physics engine
  • It's still a fairly stable gun platform
  • I didn't try to coax it into a spin, but it felt like the same stall mechanics were present. Thus, the near-irrecoverable spin probably is still there.
  • The graphics look GORGEOUS! 😍
  • It's still fast 😎
  • It has difficulties in prolonged dives; I tried diving on a N.28 on Sunday and midway through my dive, the nose started fighting me and the aircraft started to shake around dangerously. 

I haven't tested the DM on it, but time will soon tell. If I had to wager a guess, I'll bet the already weak wings from ROF won't be getting any better... 🙃

All in all, it's a serviceable plane. I view it like the N.28 as we have it now; it can be a killer, but it is no easy ride.

Sounds about right from what I've seen (The yanks have been testing it a fair amount across the lines 😉) - unfortunately, the DM for the D.XII is pretty laughable...wing-shedding is a pretty huge problem and it seems to be particularly prone to control surface jams / losses (although it might just be me imagining that)... 

I was really surprised by the dive characteristics tbh, especially seeing as the Pfalz seems to be referenced a lot as a good diver...it actually feels to me like they've gotten all the Central scouts' dive capabilities a bit mixed up! From what I've read at least, the D.XII dives like an Alb, the Alb dives like a D.VII and the D.VII dives like a D.XII! 

And yeah, very nasty spin on the D.XII, actually nastier than I remember from RoF...

 

10 hours ago, Razwald said:

A refresher for left spin recovery: idle, stick forward into the spin with opposite rudder. If you enter a full spin, engine OFF, stick forward into the spin with opposite rudder. If you had to shut the engine off once you break the spin engine on nose down to get the prop to kick the engine over. 

 


Again, I might just be imagining it but it seemed to me (alarmingly) that the full spin wouldn't recover until the prop stopped spinning...! 
 

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