Klaiber Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just going to put this here: Britchot, Lipfert, Erhardt and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britchot Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 Quote The legendary Phantom family is coming to DCS, starting with the DCS: F-4E in 2022. Does this indicate other F-4s? F-4B/C/N/J, yes please! Klaiber and Erhardt 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefly Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 Klaiber, Britchot, Erhardt and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bussard Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 So cool, this one I´ll buy for sure! F-4 Phantom - Cold war fighter from my childhood memories Erhardt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefly Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 The only problem with this upcoming module is that it's not a REDFOR craft. Apparently Razbam decided to go for the quick money (and the inevitable outpour of criticism because of shoddy QC and tonnes of bugs) with the F-15E, sidelining the Flogger for now. All we have is three MiGs, one of which is not even supersonic... Looks like they're relegating us to the role of John Wayne movie extras. You know, the ones who die on screen like they've been hit with a 20-pound cannonball. In other words, I'm looking forward to trying out the Mirage F-1 in Iraqi colours. Surely the IQAF must've had some East German advisors. Snaggle, Erhardt and Klaiber 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfeil Posted January 26, 2022 Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 Atleast its not another chinese ufo like the JF-17 or useless plane like the I-16. Iran is still using the F4 so it kinda is Redfor Erhardt, Klaiber, Firefly and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erhardt Posted January 26, 2022 Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 Yes we can certainly fly redfor for Iran - although I am not to keen to go up against US F-15s, FA-18Cs or F-16Cs with their Aim-120 missiles.... Saw that we will be getting several versions (released and sold seperatly), so we will be getting Navy F-4s as well, maybe even a British F-4? Britchot and Snaggle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britchot Posted January 26, 2022 Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 F-4EJ??? Of course I'd buy all of them. Erhardt and Klaiber 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britchot Posted January 26, 2022 Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 But in the F-4G would probably be where I'd spend most of my days in 90's CW servers doing Wild Weasel stuff: Snaggle, Firefly, Erhardt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfeil Posted January 26, 2022 Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 Where do you see the multiple versions? I can see only the F4E mentioned. Edit: nevermind, found the FAQ Erhardt and Klaiber 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bussard Posted January 26, 2022 Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 F-4F Phantom II Bundeswehr - JG71 Richthofen - 1973 until 2013 Erhardt, Britchot and Klaiber 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefly Posted January 26, 2022 Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 The F-4E is one of the most widely distributed variants out there, so picking it as the base from which to build up a Phantom family in DCS makes perfect sense. You're right about its potential REDFOR use @Pfeil and @Erhardt. The Iran-Iraq conflict could be another cool scenario for it, with Phantoms, F-5s and F-14s on the Iranian side against IQAF MiGs and Mirages. Klaiber and Erhardt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogi Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 On 1/26/2022 at 9:39 AM, Britchot said: But in the F-4G would probably be where I'd spend most of my days in 90's CW servers doing Wild Weasel stuff: G model is also my most anticipated variant. I think it would be cool af running hunter killer teams with F-16s the way the 561st TFS did in the 1st gulf war. That being said, I am curious to see what upgrades the E variant that gets released will have. The Phantom lived before Blocks to designate upgraded equipment & things were done pretty haphazardly. You would have to climb into a jet to see what systems it had. Its possible (if a later model is chosen) that we could do SEAD with the E model. Alas, many questions & few answers. We will have to wait & see Lipfert, Klaiber and Firefly 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefly Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 Agreed. Having a dedicated SEAD platform (particularly on an airframe as charismatic as the Phantom) sounds like great fun. [weeps in the corner together with @Klaiber, because we're not getting the Su-22 yet] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogi Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 54 minutes ago, Firefly said: [weeps in the corner together with @Klaiber, because we're not getting the Su-22 yet] Su22 or even the Su7 would be a great addition to DCS! Firefly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britchot Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Yogi said: I think it would be cool af running hunter killer teams with F-16s the way the 561st TFS did in the 1st gulf war. My avionics tech was an ordy for this event as his first deployment in the USAF. He was with the 81st Fighter Squadron, 52nd Fighter Wing. Snaggle and Klaiber 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaiber Posted February 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Yogi said: Su22 or even the Su7 would be a great addition to DCS! Firefly and Snaggle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefly Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 45 minutes ago, Klaiber said: Reminds me of my favourite TV advert. Klaiber and Snaggle 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaggle Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Firefly said: Reminds me of my favourite TV advert. Loved the S2000, like the one in my garage, and to bad no Honda Jet!! Barton and Firefly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefly Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Snaggle said: Loved the S2000, like the one in my garage, and to bad no Honda Jet!! I recently sold my car and got a nice little Honda of my own, I'd be happy to trade experiences if you're up for it. p.s. I believe the Honda Jet features in a later, slightly updated version of the advert. Snaggle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 4 hours ago, Snaggle said: Loved the S2000, like the one in my garage, and to bad no Honda Jet!! You wouldn't want the Honda Jet.... MASSIVE disappointment. The Phenom 100 is considerably better in the same class. I have had a dozen HJ pilots come through and to a man they were very pleased to put it behind them. I thought the HJ would be a kickass platform.... Honda just doesn't do bad things. Well.... back to cars and bikes. Firefly and Snaggle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonrd Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Ludwig said: You wouldn't want the Honda Jet.... MASSIVE disappointment. The Phenom 100 is considerably better in the same class. I have had a dozen HJ pilots come through and to a man they were very pleased to put it behind them. I thought the HJ would be a kickass platform.... Honda just doesn't do bad things. Well.... back to cars and bikes. We were going to be a service center for the Honda Jet but their support was very minimal and amateurish. Plus, the plane is just outright weird. Working on engines on top of the wings... where do you stand for access? Spilling oil and fuel all over the wing and maybe even dropping a tool? How do you get the cherry picker in place for an engine change? We declined. Snaggle and Firefly 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 On 2/3/2022 at 9:03 PM, Vonrd said: We were going to be a service center for the Honda Jet but their support was very minimal and amateurish. Plus, the plane is just outright weird. Working on engines on top of the wings... where do you stand for access? Spilling oil and fuel all over the wing and maybe even dropping a tool? How do you get the cherry picker in place for an engine change? We declined. As a long-time maintenance person I have developed a deep resentment for engineers and executives who don't give any consideration to maintenance. If I had $100 for every time I cocked my head and said aloud, "I have to do what?" I could buy a seat on a SpaceX rocket. I have a lot of respect for the S2000, though I've never owned or driven one. I've always been into the smaller, more nimble cars. I find the thrill of cornering much greater than brute acceleration. Snaggle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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