Vonrd

The real problem is that in RL you can swivel you eyeballs to get an additional 10 degrees or so which will allow you to see further behind with your head at the max swivel limit. Try it. I can see directly behind me with my orbs at max swivel. The only way this will work in VR is with an appx 180 deg field of view. When I don't care that much about scoring (most of the time on open servers) I fly VR. If I'm flying (for now "simulated") DID, it will be TIR until the 3rd gen VR (if it allows more peripheral). The original purpose for this post still stands... I believe we can make it better with tactics and ,as Barton said, these tactics can apply to non VR flying.

I'm going to try it in single player with icons on so I can read the distance to see if 600 meters is actually enough to see far enough back to clear the other's 6. I agree that 1K may be a bit much but visibility IMHO Trumps being able to immediately support... if you don't see the bandit it's all moot. (I was hesitant in jumping in on the VR but it IS SOOO immersive... I'm sure you will love it)

I'm fairly new to VR but I think there may be some adjustments needed in tactics if we are going to be effective when flying in VR (at the current level of sophistication). The most glaring deficiencies when using VR (Flight Lead and Wing in VR) are: Spotting: There are settings that one can implement which greatly alleviate this problem (speaking strictly for BOx here). See this post: https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/34266-copypaste-settings- for-best-spotting-rift-and-odyssey-updated/ Checking 6: This is the real bugaboo for me... It's nearly physically impossible for me to check 6 since VR is one to one in head rotation. Try it. Unless you're an owl or Linda Blair there is no way to see directly behind you by just turning your head. You can get there by swiveling your chair but I have to lift my feet off the rudder pedals and let go of the stick... not ideal. This situation is especially deadly for the wingman when flying in the typical echelon formation since he is the most tasty target, he can't clear his own 6, and Lead certainly can't clear his 6 either. I suggest that (when both pilots are in VR) we adopt a line abreast formation with a good amount of separation (750 to 1000 meters). This will let each pilot of the element clear each others 6 to some extent. Additionally, the element should periodically(30 sec) check left 10 degrees for long enough for the trailing pilot to call "Clear" or "Oh S**T" (as appropriate), then back to original heading and then repeat to the right. All course changes should use turns (in place, Tac, etc.) to maintain the line abreast formation. Those with more experience... what do you think?

Barton's fighter skins amended... please overwrite the existing ones: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qfyzglj9w0mv9wo/AACoQghZ7Pkf1kD2mmMpTlZTa?dl=0

Honestly, I didn't research... . It's not that big a deal to change. I'll look into it. EDIT: After a quick look I see that the circle is adjacent to the chevron. I don't see any examples for the 109s though. Small or large circle?

Honestly, I didn't research... . It's not that big a deal to change. I'll look into it.

His fighter skins here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qfyzglj9w0mv9wo/AACoQghZ7Pkf1kD2mmMpTlZTa?dl=0

This looks ... "interesting"... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr-Zz5HbO7Q&feature=youtu.be

So... you have X-ray vision?... Heh heh...

I mistakenly included this skin in the zip file "FDr1_JG1_Hook". Please delete from your DR1 file as there should be a "A_FDr1_JG1_Hook" file in it which has the "A" prefix.

Here's the zip of all JG1 skins including Fokker DVII but without the ones that have Swastika. All files have the "A" prefix. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ofez2bbbotb1ode/skins.zip?dl=0

The point is probably moot. I have already re-named all JG1 skins to have the "A" prefix. I will post the new zip file tonight.

Here's weathered vs brand new on 109-F 2018_9_3__19_33_7.bmp 2018_9_3__19_34_28.bmp Hey Luft, can you post these?... I don't know why it doesn't show as images for me.

I now decree that all JG1 skin files SHALL begin with "A" and I will rename all that aren't that way. What about Hess's "weathered" and "brand new"? If I don't hear anything I will delete the "brand new".

I stand in solidarity and I'm disappointed with Woody... I always had the impression that he was a pretty good guy.

Good point Luft. Since I seem to be the "Skin Czar" I propose that ALL JG1 skins begin with the "A_" prefix. Currently it is a bit of a mish / mash and I will take the blame for that since it has evolved as Hess and I were doing the skins and we didn't come up with a consistent naming system. That being said... I have found software... "ReNamer" ...that make's it relatively painless to batch re-name files. I don't want to get too anal about it though. As long as the files begin with an "A" (and all my WWII ones do so) which will bring them at or close to the top of the list, I think that should be good enough and would save me the hassle and possible loss of files in renaming *everything*. Our total download size is getting pretty big (I have 14 Gig in the skins file but that includes Wing Walkers and a few others). Hess has done his skins in "weathered" and "brand new". I propose we eliminate one or the other and I would prefer to keep the "weathered" since all of my skins are as such. So, it's going to be a bit of a PITA for those who have already downloaded custom skins other than JG1 as you will have to somehow keep them while deleting ALL JG1 skins before installing the Global JG1 zip file (which I will compile if Command approves this naming policy). Oh, and about call signs... We don't have numbers / letters assigned to us in WW1 so I use the pilot's name. In WW2 we do have number / letter assignments and pilots do sometimes get re-assigned or quit. Pretty much all I would have to do is change the personal graphic like your "gauntlet" but keep the rest the same.

Here ya go Hook: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8xh8a5jj2t89n6c/FokkerDr1.zip?dl=0 Note that this is the complete DR1 file and all files have been renamed with the "A_" prefix (see the next post) so please remove any JG1 skins that you have in your file before unzipping this in. Sorry about the Olive Drab... it looked black in PS and the skin viewer. The pilot's combing was due to a "Grease Stain" layer in the template... got it sorted. 2018_9_3__0_58_38.bmp 2018_9_3__0_58_53.bmp EDIT: Attaching screenshots still not working for me.

Here ya go Hook: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3avrchamgczgr6j/FDr1_JG1_Hook.dds?dl=0 Let me know if you want anything changed. I did the struts red because the struts aren't mapped for left and right.

I threw in the towel and got a Rift. (I had ordered a Dell Visor from Ebay for $300 but the back-light didn't work and I had to return it, so I decided Best Buy was the best option... if something goes bad I only have a 2 mile trip to rectify it). Amazing! You guys who have VR already know. The most astounding thing for me is that my gunnery has at least tripled. I can now easily estimate angle off and intuitively project where the rounds will meet the target. (I was always a better than average shot at the clay pigeons... and live birds... though I don't hunt anymore). The difference between 2D and 3D gunnery is astounding to me! I am having some difficulties though. The worst is that my glasses are just a bit too wide and it becomes quite painful as the nose pads dig into my nose. I plan on ordering a set of prescription inserts. Does anyone use them? I also have problems of my glasses fogging up when it's warm in my sim room. Anyone else? Lastly, so far, is the difficulty in checking 6 (and there's lots on the forums about this. My take is that, yes, it's realistic that RL pilots can't turn their heads that far, but most don't take into account that our eyes move... try it... I can't turn my head much past 90 deg but my eyes can get almost to 180. I can check at least 5 and 7 o'clock... cant do that in VR). Has anyone come up with a "cheat" to check 6?

I may be wrong (and often am ) but I think "Custom Skins" are dependent on the individual players having downloaded and installed them in their game folder. The server can allow or deny custom skins. They may have to be on the server for them to show up on AI planes (and tanks... there are now templates out for tank skins... how are we going to do JG1 as Panzergruppen? ).

For now, this is the Zip for all the JG1 DR1s to date. https://www.dropbox.com/s/8xh8a5jj2t89n6c/FokkerDr1.zip?dl=0 I want to re-name them so they all begin with "A" ... i.e.... "A_FDr1_JG1_Vonrd" instead of "FDr1_JG1_Vonrd". This will make the skins show up early in the list as more squads / people add skins (ones that we want to see anyway). This may cause some confusion for those that already downloaded the skins. Is everyone OK with re-naming or should I blow it off? As Butzzell said: "anyone that is going to be or thinking about FC should put in a request for Dr.1 skin". Don't be shy... it's something I enjoy doing... but I would like to get it all completed earlier than later. Those of you who have a skin from ROF but would like to change something can also put in a request.

Hey Britt, This is turning out to be a PITA to get the "Face" to work since the aft part of the cowl is mapped as a separate and reversed section from the front of the cowl. It will take lots of trial and error to get the "eyebrows" to line up. Good idea but sorry.

Did the blanked out name say "II/.JG1 Barton shot down II/.JG1 Vonrd"? Just kidding... even I have come to know better... Nice vid Barton.

Copy Britt. Thanks for clarifying

I don't think I said anything political other than the word "politicians"