graphic glitch

[Jaus]

I decided to give BoS a try while it's on sale.    It has given me the opportunity to finally get a shot of the kind of graphic glitch I've been talking about in FC.

In the attached shot the layer of green that runs through the gunsight is actually above the plane.   From above it appears as normal terrain, until you try to land.  The light blue is graphic dead space, and the real terrain is the green layer below the gunsight.   A moment before this I had flown directly into trees that appeared to have tops above me, but flew right through them.

Ever seen this before?   This is actually worse than what I've seen in FC.  Is there a cure?

[Klaiber]

That's really strange.  I've never seen that before, honestly.

Have you updated your graphics card?  If so, you may want to post here:

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/forum/89-technical-issues-and-bug-reports/

 

[Britchot]

5 hours ago, Klaiber said:

Have you updated your graphics card?

Klaiber specifically means graphics driver, which is what I suggest. 

[Jaus]

Updated graphics driver for my 1080 ti..... didn't help much/

[Britchot]

Ouch.  Definitely post about it.

[Jaus]

Posted to the tech issues forum.   

[Butzzell]

That is just crazy.

Install problem?

[Klaiber]

14 hours ago, Britchot said:

Klaiber specifically means graphics driver, which is what I suggest. 

Yes, that's what I mean.

Brit speaks fluent Klaiberese.

[Klaiber]

It looks like the tester who responded on the IL-2 boards isn't sure either.  But interestingly, someone posted right after you with a similar problem.  And they're running an NVIDIA card too.

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/30090-nvidia-graphics-issues-post-here/page/13/?tab=comments#comment-1040443

 

[Razwald]

I recall seeing something weird like that when I was using that mod for VR zoom. Every time there was an update it messed with that mod.

If you have used mods in that past I would check your mod install folder or JSMGE to see if there is something there that is no longer supported or needs an update. What about shaders.

[Klaiber]

Yeah, I think Raz is right.

[Jaus]

hmmm,  I was using Reshade, but deleted the files (the ones I could find). a week or so ago when I stopped using it.

Maybe a complete re-install is in order.

[Vonrd]

I remember when the whole MiGoto mod cheat fiasco came up and Reshade was outlawed on some servers, I wasn't able to get rid of everything (I had also used SweetFX and some other shader thingy as I recall). I did wind up doing a reinstall. That's why I'm now really leery of shader programs. (I also spent way too much time tweaking with the bottom line of deciding that the base graphics are just fine).

[Klaiber]

@Jaus, have you had any luck with this glitch?

[Jaus]

I did a re-install just to clear out any residue of Reshade, but no change.

Just an hour ago I followed advice from another poster who had viewed a track I uploaded and said it looked normal to him.   He advised manually setting the "full" and "win" resolutions in my startup config to 2160x3840 which I did (not sure what they really mean...).    Also advised setting all NVIDIA control panel settings for IL2.exe to defaults.     I did both and viewed the  the track I had posted and did not see the problem.    Also tried the mission again and did not see the issue.    keeping fingers crossed.

The other aspect of this change is what it will do to spotting as I had set my NVIDIA settings to maximize that (not that it did a whole lot of good)

[Klaiber]

I'm glad you've gotten some type of resolution (no pun intended).  Even if it's a temporary fix.

Keep us posted!

[Jaus]

Well, the problem didn't go away.   I have perhaps identified a pattern.   Here is my post from the IL2GB tech forum :

 

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I think I've identified a pattern.   The graphic problem which was intermittent in FC, seems to be pretty constant in BoS.    What I have noticed is that, in either module, if I load a mission and the glitch occurs, I can shut down the game then restart and the problem is gone.    I just did this with a track I recorded of the problem.    Recorded the track, played it back and saw the problem.   Shut down and re-started the game and the track now looks normal (mission looks normal too, BoS "Airfield Strike")

 

So far this seems to be a pretty consistent pattern.

 

The funny thing is that I had a similar problem in Rise of Flight.    I never saw a graphic problem, but the game did start crashing after a few months  when attempting to load the first mission after starting the game   Re-start the game and the missions load normally.

 

I don't really remember for sure, but the RoF problem may have started right around the time I upgraded from GTX970 to 1080ti.

 

 

[Klaiber]

Geez, Jaus.  I'm really sorry to hear that you're still fighting with this glitch.

I really hope that they'll be able to give you some sort of solution.  To have to shut the game down completely each time it happens is completely unacceptable.

[Jaus]

Here are a couple of my favorites....

[Klaiber]

Did you ever get this figured out?

[Lipfert]

On 1/6/2021 at 3:36 PM, Jaus said:

Well, the problem didn't go away.   I have perhaps identified a pattern.   Here is my post from the IL2GB tech forum :

 

 

Jaus,

Try these settings:

S!

[Jaus]

15 hours ago, Klaiber said:

Did you ever get this figured out?

No,  Jan 20th was the last post I put on the IL2 forum in response to a request for direct x settings.   Nothing since.

[Jaus]

15 hours ago, Lipfert said:

Jaus,

Try these settings:

S!

I remember this post from  a while ago and I did use if for a while.    It may have been around that time i started noticing the problem.     Probably just a coincicence.    I have been using the setting I posted above  for a month or so now with little improvement.    I have switched on MSAA vs FSAA and unchecked SSAO, HDR, and Sharpen.   We'll see if that limited change helps.     

I also experience a crash in RoF evertime I start a mission.   I have to restart and then everything is ok,   just like in IL2-GB.   I have a suspicion some important component is not being loaded on my computer and IL2 just handles it a little better.

[Lipfert]

3 hours ago, Jaus said:

I remember this post from  a while ago and I did use if for a while.    It may have been around that time i started noticing the problem.     Probably just a coincicence.    I have been using the setting I posted above  for a month or so now with little improvement.    I have switched on MSAA vs FSAA and unchecked SSAO, HDR, and Sharpen.   We'll see if that limited change helps.     

I also experience a crash in RoF evertime I start a mission.   I have to restart and then everything is ok,   just like in IL2-GB.   I have a suspicion some important component is not being loaded on my computer and IL2 just handles it a little better.

Jaus,

Are you running the GPU fans at 100% while in game?

S!

[Jaus]

I don't know how to tell what the fan speed is.   I'm pretty confident that this is not heat related.   The problem usually occurs when I first turn the computer on and start the geme.   Once I restart the game (during the same computer boot)    I have no more problems no matter how long I leave the computer on or play the game.