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Is there a reason to invest money in the new Virpil collective for helo sims?

https://forum.virpil.com/index.php?/topic/3796-vpc-collective-controller-lineup-preorders-open-today/

What can I do with it, what I can't with a throttle? Might it be usefull in Star Citizen?

Of course there is the immersive aspect, but I need more than that to be willing to spent €520 (plus shipping).  BOINK 🤨 Must be a very good reason after doing the calculation 

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I see this kinda question posted every time some new high dollar piece of hardware comes along. I guess people are looking to justify spending the money or more commonly justify why they arent. 

If you trying to keep up with the Jones (an American colloquialism meaning trying to have all the toys everyone else has), dont! Madness lies there. You cannot buy happiness, I know, I have tried! 

However if you have a passion for helicopters & the disposal income to waste on a new toy its almost a no brainer. 

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3 hours ago, Yogi said:

However if you have a passion for helicopters & the disposal income to waste on a new toy its almost a no brainer. 

This right here.  It's a great way to get more immersed with a helicopter.  It could be used for other things, SC could be fun for vertical strafe, but it's certainly more for the helicopters.  That said, due to the new router I had to buy, a collective must wait for me. 

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The more I've been thinking about it, the more I could see SC or Elite Dangerous being a blast with a collective.  

Up/down for vertical strafe.
Throttle twist for forward/back.

Still, I would probably only buy that if you absolutely love helicopters and want to fly them more. 

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HAH! I do this all the time. I set up for things I can't have... then when I don't find them I am not disappointed..... but then that one day I find what I thought I couldn't find (sadistic isn't it???) I feel that I have to buy it even if I don't really want it. In the old days I would have... and it would sit.  I have a wonderful flight sim sitting next to me on an almost brand new computer that I have not even started up in probably 3-4 months.  DON'T do that.

IF you have the time, and are going to enjoy the #@$ thing...   GO MAN GO...  life is short... . enjoy it.  IF you are going to use it...  that is the key, because you know you are going to get a bang out of it. 

 

PS...   I am waiting for the AH-1 Cobra.  See how I do that???  It isn't on any list of being released soon...  but when it comes out, I told myself I will buy it.

Then it will be plugged into the flight sim sitting next to me that i have not turned on in 3-4 months.   DOH !

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@Karl Spackler absolutely loves his. Hopefully he'll see this and give his opinion, too.

If I had a desk/cockpit layout that supported it (and the disposable income), I'd probably fall to the peer pressure and get one, too.  I believe it's mostly just the immersion feeling of using a collective.  I'm still flying just fine with my inverted throttle. 

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2 hours ago, Britchot said:

@Karl Spackler absolutely loves his. Hopefully he'll see this and give his opinion, too.

If I had a desk/cockpit layout that supported it (and the disposable income), I'd probably fall to the peer pressure and get one, too.  I believe it's mostly just the immersion feeling of using a collective.  I'm still flying just fine with my inverted throttle. 

The peer pressure is mostly applied by just me. Now I have company.

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21 hours ago, Heinrich said:

Hello @Lipfert and any other collective users, 

after x-hours using the collective what's your opinion? Immersive-wise I think it does it's work very well, but does it makes handling a helicopter a lot or just a bit easier than with a split throttle?

 

Heinrich,

I really like the unit, build quality is excellent. Honestly flying helicopters has been very entertaining, my brain is completely not wired for it but I'm slowly getting better. With the additional helicopters in DCS, I expect to be spending a lot more time in them.

I really just like taking the HIP up with no weapons and just messing around. I still lose control and don't really even know why sometimes.

The fine control is improved for sure compared to split throttles, IMHO it was well worth the money.

I run this unit on my systems for power conditioning Tripp Lite 1500VA UPS LCD Battery Back Up Tower AVR 120-Volt USB Coaxial RJ45, Black (OMNI1500LCDT)

Had trouble with 650VA not being up to the task.

Hope this helps, my only question is why Brit doesn't have one yet?

S!

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13 minutes ago, Lipfert said:

I still lose control and don't really even know why sometimes.

Every IRL army heli pilot on YouTube (thinking particularly of Casmo here and I'm sure Snaggle has said the same), says that the vortex ring state (settling with power) aka VRS as depicted in DCS is wildly overblown as to how easy it is to induce. Helicopters aren't anywhere near as bad as it seems. Hopefully ED is working on taming it. I personally think they have with the Hind, and they just need to back-engineer that into the previous models.

 

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Jet Seat (by Andre) is definitely a must have, if i was forced to choose between my VR and Jet Seat, I would let go of my VR. The Jet Seat makes you so much more aware of what your A/C is doing, stalls, stresses, trimming, but also minor damage by this 1 bullet in your left wing: "Oeps, AA around". Both in DCS and IL2/FC. Oh the fun when roling over the runway and you feel those rubber seams between the concrete slabs.

I took the shakers out of the original seat and cut some holes in my game chair (seat and back). I use them now for 2? years, one vibration engine had its baring broken, I have now 2 new ones on my way for €17 (PP included). When they arrive its just a bit of soldering and he's good to go (the other is a spare in case of)

The other thing I would recommend is the Point Ctrl, clicking, turning, switching knobs, buttons etc with either left or right hand just as you would do in RL, the earliest models had some build flaws but they become better and better. I only have to grab the mouse for the comms menu control.

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2 hours ago, Heinrich said:

The other thing I would recommend is the Point Ctrl, clicking, turning, switching knobs, buttons etc with either left or right hand just as you would do in RL, the earliest models had some build flaws but they become better and better. I only have to grab the mouse for the comms menu control.

Still waiting for my order to roll around.

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