Vonrd Posted July 20, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 Israelis finished as well. This is a submission for the B-17G Livery Competition. This includes two skins depicting S/Ns 44-83851 No. '23' and 44-83811 No. 21. Although these are beyond the dates specified in the competition, I thought that they may be useful for missions on the new Sinai map. The history and color schemes noted on the web vary quite a bit. Original photos of what I assume to be the delivery flight show them as being very heavily worn. Some accounts say that they were subsequently re-painted and I have decided to depict them freshly painted as shown on the accompanying profile picture. I did not include 'plain' versions since they both have only the small '21' and '23' individual distinguishing markings. Speculars are used but I will change to roughmets if the developers decide to upgrade the B-17 to PBR. All accounts agree that Israeli acquisition agents managed to purchase 4 surplus U.S. Air Force B-17s. One Fortress was seized on its way in Portugal and so only 3 arrived in Czechoslovakia. On the way home to Israel, one B-17 bombed Cairo and the other two bombed Egyptian forces in Gaza and Rafiah. 1956 saw growing diplomatic tensions in the Middle East, tensions that would soon culminate in the Suez Crisis. The B-17s began flying daylight operations and the squadron supported the Israeli push towards Sharm el Sheikh, on the southern tip of the Sinai. 69 Squadron was finally disbanded on March 1, 1957 and the B-17s placed in storage and were finally scrapped in 1958. No. 69 Squadron was reactivated at Ramat David on November 1, 1969 and is active to the present operating the F-15I Thunder out of Hatzerim. Submitted to User Files. Will post link once it's approved. Erhardt, Klaiber, JayMore and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaiber Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 These look great, Von! Nice job! Definitely post the links when you have it. Also, did you still want to fix the East German F-14 skin? The roundel is flipped under the wing. Thanks! Erhardt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonrd Posted July 20, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Klaiber said: Also, did you still want to fix the East German F-14 skin? I thought I had done it... I'll check. Maybe I just didn't submit it. Erhardt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaiber Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 10 hours ago, Vonrd said: I thought I had done it... I'll check. Maybe I just didn't submit it. You had made one, but as I said, the roundel on the underwing was flipped. Erhardt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonrd Posted July 20, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 Corrected F-14 in User Files. Please download and make sure that I got it right. The UV map is a bit confusing. https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3326727/ Klaiber 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaiber Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 7 hours ago, Vonrd said: Corrected F-14 in User Files. Please download and make sure that I got it right. The UV map is a bit confusing. https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3326727/ Thanks. Also, here are the B-17s: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3332180/ https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3332179/ Erhardt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonrd Posted July 28, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 This is a submission for the B-17G Livery Competition. It includes two skins, one a detailed 'Texas Chubby' and one plain and without the distinguishing markings of 'Texas Chubby". It is a generic B-17G of the 322nd BG, 91st BS as specified in the competition rules. Speculars are used but I will change to roughmets if the developers decide to upgrade the B-17 to PBR. The detailed skin depicts Serial number 42-31634, a B-17G-25-DL, code: LG-O, nicknamed "Texas Chubby - The J'Ville Jolter". The plane flew 50 combat missions with the 322nd Bombardment Squadron of the 91st Bombardment Group. Attacked by German fighters on 16-Aug-44 while on a mission to bomb aircraft factories at Halle, Germany and blew up in mid-air. Crashed in the Forest of Mollenfelde at Eichenberg/Thurlingen, Germany with 5KIA and 4POW. Fate of the crew: Pilot 1Lt Halstead Sherrill (KIA) CoPpilot 2Lt Frank J. Gilligan (POW) Navigator 2Lt William M. Porter (POW) Bombardier 2Lt Nicholas J. Weber (KIA) Engineer/TTG Sgt Vernon E. Bauerline (KIA) Radio Operator SSgt Richard J. Munkwitz (POW) Ball Turret Enrique T. Perez (KIA) Waist SSgt Joseph R. Morrison (KIA) Tail Gun SSgt Chester W. Mis (POW). Submitted to User Files, Link Here: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3332350/ Erhardt, Snaggle, Britchot and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaiber Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 Looks great, Vonrd. When they post the link, let us know. Erhardt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonrd Posted July 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 Here's the link https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3332350/ Klaiber and Erhardt 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted July 30, 2023 Report Share Posted July 30, 2023 GREAT work on the B-17... I have said it a million times I simply don't know how you guys do that and so fast. It really is amazing. I guess akin to watching Walter Lantz once when I was in college and he could draw Woody Woodpecker in about 5 seconds. I know... not the same but the familiarity with the subject and software what takes you guys an hour would be a lifetime for someone else. SAD news on the B-17s out there today. A friend of mine here in North Texas said he was with a group of guys the other day and that one of the old guys (watch it!) was going through some inspections and they found a wing spar crack that is likely going to ground ALL the B-17s that are currently flying. I sure hope that is not the case. Snaggle and Vonrd 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonrd Posted July 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Ludwig said: they found a wing spar crack that is likely going to ground ALL the B-17s that are currently flying Man, that sucks! Still, nothing is forever and they are way old and built when metallurgy was not as advanced as it is today (someone will probably say the same thing 50 years hence) and there was no expectation that they would last more than a few years... or much less. of course, anything can be fixed if enough money is thrown at it but where would that come from? I'm so glad that I got a ride in one. I welded a crack in a turbo on one of the Collings Foundation Nine-O-Nine when the FAA grounded it at Hayward airport. Kinda extreme on the FAA's part since they never flew high enough to activate the turbos and the exhaust bypassed the turbo. It was challenging welding 60 year old, oil soaked and lead oxide covered stainless and upside down to boot, but I managed to blob enough filler to fill the crack and signed it off. (I knew it would probably crack around the weld or somewhere else but it wasn't a safety concern in my opinion. For that, I got a free ride. Way cool! Sadly, it crashed and was destroyed at Windsor Locks, Bradley Airport October 2, 2019 when #4 engine failed (I worked on #3 and the failure had nothing to do with the turbo. According to the NTSB report "The pilot shut down the other three engines and used a spray can of nitrogen to "blow out the moisture" in the engine that balked" Snaggle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kliegmann Posted July 30, 2023 Report Share Posted July 30, 2023 Yeah its easy to forget that some of these airframes are reaching 100 years old. They will all eventually be found to be unairworthy Snaggle and Erhardt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted August 3, 2023 Report Share Posted August 3, 2023 Snags may remember Steve Staples from AMR Eagle, he flew Nine-o-Nine when he got laid off from Pan Am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 On 7/30/2023 at 2:01 PM, Vonrd said: I'm so glad that I got a ride in one. YEAH.... and after the 11th Circuit Court ruled last month that 91.315 which precludes warbirds from carrying persons or property for hire prohibits paid instruction from taking place in such aircraft. ( i.e. limited category aircraft) So now, if you want to give someone instruction in a T-6 you are not supposed to be able to get paid for it. When there was obviously blowback on the item the argument was that this has always been the case (70+ years) and only NOW they wish to enforce it. The FAA has been without leadership for some time and the last appointee to be considered was so horribly UNqualified for the position he was almost completely laughed out of the hearings. It is worth the comedy if you want to see it on YouTube. Since so many reasons were immediately obvious as to how this would undermine those groups and individuals that attempt to maintain warbirds and make them available to the public through displays and airshows an already expensive undertaking now loses a MAJOR part of the very small amount of money they can generate to help sustain the effort. Since the ruling, the FAA has backtracked into that dark zone where ok.... "certain people with regular access to such aircraft" may receive paid flight training but of course there is no definition to what constitutes regular access. So getting a ride in such a machine is going to get harder to do. Vonrd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonrd Posted August 7, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2023 @Klaiber ... sorry... Here's another B-17 This is yet another submission for the B-17G Livery Competition. It includes two skins, one a detailed 'Wee Willie' and one plain and without the distinguishing markings of 'Wee Willie" as specified in the competition. Speculars are used but I will change to roughmets if the developers decide to upgrade the B-17 to PBR. The detailed skin depicts Serial number 42-31333, a B-17G-15-BO, code: LG-W, nicknamed "Wee Willie". The plane completed 128 combat missions with the 322nd Bombardment Squadron of the 91st Bombardment Group. DCS: World War II Assets Pack is required. Many thanks to SOLIDKREATE for providing his research and advise and to Warlord64 for his JSON Mod and for assistance on the spinning props. Please Note: This skin will work with the default JSON file included in the game but to see the skin at it's best, use the improved Metallic look MOD by Warlord64 available here : https://forum.dcs.world/topic/319116-specular-reflectivity-from-brushed-to-mirror-effect/#comment-5150016 On 3 February over Wilhelmshaven "Willie" took some serious flak damage just above the ball turret. The repair is depicted on the skin. Wee Willie was part of a mission on 8 April 1945 The 322nd Bombardment Squadron was tasked to an attack against the locomotive repair facilities at the railroad marshaling yards in Stendal, Saxony-Anhalt Germany and was on it's 129th combat mission. Wee Willie was the oldest B-17G still in service with the 91st Bomb Group, and the next to last B-17 lost to enemy action by the group before cessation of hostilities. The War in Europe came to an end with the unconditional surrender of Germany just 30 days later, 7 May 1945. It's demise was captured on a series of dramatic and heartbreaking photographs. Never Forget... B-17 42-31333 / Wee Willie Crew Position Rank Name Status Note P 1LT Robert E. Fuller POW - CP 2LT Woodrow A. Lien KIA - NAV T/SGT Francis J. McCarthy KIA - ENG/TT S/SGT Wylie McNatt, Jr. KIA - RO S/SGT Ralph J. Leffelman KIA - BT S/SGT William H. Cassiday KIA - WG S/SGT James D. Houtchens KIA - TG SGT Le Moyne Miller KIA - TOG S/SGT Richard D. Proudfit KIA - Erhardt and Britchot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaiber Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 On 8/6/2023 at 9:28 PM, Vonrd said: @Klaiber ... sorry... Here's another B-17 This is yet another submission for the B-17G Livery Competition. It includes two skins, one a detailed 'Wee Willie' and one plain and without the distinguishing markings of 'Wee Willie" as specified in the competition. Speculars are used but I will change to roughmets if the developers decide to upgrade the B-17 to PBR. The detailed skin depicts Serial number 42-31333, a B-17G-15-BO, code: LG-W, nicknamed "Wee Willie". The plane completed 128 combat missions with the 322nd Bombardment Squadron of the 91st Bombardment Group. DCS: World War II Assets Pack is required. Many thanks to SOLIDKREATE for providing his research and advise and to Warlord64 for his JSON Mod and for assistance on the spinning props. Please Note: This skin will work with the default JSON file included in the game but to see the skin at it's best, use the improved Metallic look MOD by Warlord64 available here : https://forum.dcs.world/topic/319116-specular-reflectivity-from-brushed-to-mirror-effect/#comment-5150016 On 3 February over Wilhelmshaven "Willie" took some serious flak damage just above the ball turret. The repair is depicted on the skin. Wee Willie was part of a mission on 8 April 1945 The 322nd Bombardment Squadron was tasked to an attack against the locomotive repair facilities at the railroad marshaling yards in Stendal, Saxony-Anhalt Germany and was on it's 129th combat mission. Wee Willie was the oldest B-17G still in service with the 91st Bomb Group, and the next to last B-17 lost to enemy action by the group before cessation of hostilities. The War in Europe came to an end with the unconditional surrender of Germany just 30 days later, 7 May 1945. It's demise was captured on a series of dramatic and heartbreaking photographs. Never Forget... B-17 42-31333 / Wee Willie Crew Position Rank Name Status Note P 1LT Robert E. Fuller POW - CP 2LT Woodrow A. Lien KIA - NAV T/SGT Francis J. McCarthy KIA - ENG/TT S/SGT Wylie McNatt, Jr. KIA - RO S/SGT Ralph J. Leffelman KIA - BT S/SGT William H. Cassiday KIA - WG S/SGT James D. Houtchens KIA - TG SGT Le Moyne Miller KIA - TOG S/SGT Richard D. Proudfit KIA - No worries, Von. The update I was sitting on was so large that I needed to publish. However, I always expected you to keep posting new liveries. All, here is the link to Wee Willie: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3332471/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonrd Posted August 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2023 Another B-17. Posted here: https://forum.dcs.world/topic/329366-dcs-wwii-assets-pack-b-17g-livery-competition/page/5/#comment-5274975 Klaiber 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaiber Posted August 15, 2023 Report Share Posted August 15, 2023 Thanks Von. Let me know when the post the skin and I'll add it to the next pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonrd Posted August 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2023 18 hours ago, Klaiber said: Thanks Von. Let me know when the post the skin and I'll add it to the next pack. Link: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3332565/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaiber Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 Thanks @Vonrd, got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayMore Posted September 9, 2023 Report Share Posted September 9, 2023 Well, As stated yesterday during our potluck, Here's the skin I made for myself.. Thought the frog was appropriate v_!_JG1_Bf109K-4_JayMore.zip Klaiber, Erhardt and Stuka 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonrd Posted September 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2023 Looks great! Snaggle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonrd Posted September 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2023 Here's Snaggle's Dora v_!_JG1_FW-190D9_Snaggle.zip Klaiber, Erhardt, Snaggle and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaggle Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Vonrd said: Here's Snaggle's Dora Now if I can learn to fly it better than last night Erhardt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaiber Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 On 9/9/2023 at 10:34 AM, JayMore said: Well, As stated yesterday during our potluck, Here's the skin I made for myself.. Thought the frog was appropriate v_!_JG1_Bf109K-4_JayMore.zip 15.73 MB · 2 downloads Thanks. Looks great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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