Raptor Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 Sort of out of the loop been busy at work, anyone know what's going on with this whole Razbam and Eagle Dynamics situation? Looks like the flight sim community is ablaze right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonrd Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 Here's the report on Stormbirds: https://stormbirds.blog/2024/04/04/eagle-dynamics-and-razbam-clash-in-public-statements/ Not looking good for the long awaited MiG-23. I hope that they are able to work out their differences. Erhardt and Raptor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labroisse Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 Lawyers Klaiber, Erhardt and Britchot 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britchot Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 1 hour ago, Labroisse said: Lawyers Hearts, Labroisse Erhardt and Labroisse 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelsup_cavu Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 Playing these types of disputes out in the court of public opinion can end up doing irreparable harm to both companies. Wheels Britchot, Klaiber, Heinrich and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaiber Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, wheelsup_cavu said: Playing these types of disputes out in the court of public opinion can end up doing irreparable harm to both companies. Wheels Agreed Erhardt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erhardt Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 I fail to see why they chose to include us (the customers) in this ongoing struggle, they could just have said things have been delayed owing to issues beyond their control. In the end ED are the ones in control and whatever happens I am sure ED will continue giving us the best Air Combat Simulator available today. So I choose to ignore this as there is nothing I can do or add, so I will simply ignore it. It does raise the question about preordering from third party developers in the future though. Klaiber and wheelsup_cavu 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaiber Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 7 hours ago, Erhardt said: I fail to see why they chose to include us (the customers) in this ongoing struggle, they could just have said things have been delayed owing to issues beyond their control. In the end ED are the ones in control and whatever happens I am sure ED will continue giving us the best Air Combat Simulator available today. So I choose to ignore this as there is nothing I can do or add, so I will simply ignore it. It does raise the question about preordering from third party developers in the future though. I think RAZBAM was hoping for leverage over ED in their contract dispute, which is why RAZBAM aired the dirty laundry in public. If the consumers (us) got angry enough at ED on RAZBAM's behalf, we could collectively apply the pressure needed to finalize things in RAZBAM's favor. But of course, once you bring stuff to the court of public opinion, it gets hard to control the narrative. Just head to Reddit or more open forums to see how out of control the discussions have gotten in the last few days. As a result, RAZBAM has already posted messages on their Discord trying to reign the message back. In case the twitter link is removed at some point, razbam_prowler (Ron Zambrano) says: Quote Dear customers and community, RAZBAM Simulations is actively working with EAGLE DYNAMICS to reach an agreement to resolve our internal dispute and we don't want the discussion that our public declaration has generated to escalate any further. We want to assure you that it has never been nor will it be our intention to abandon our products. We look forward to a prompt and satisfactory resolution, turn the page, and move forward. Best regards, Ron Zambano CEO RAZBAM Simulations, LLC As I've mentioned to @Britchot and @Karl Spackler (Trev), trying not to escalate after taking the nuclear option is kind of like screaming "won't someone think of the children!" while simultaneously throwing them on the freeway. J5_Hotlead, wheelsup_cavu, Erhardt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Spackler Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 Lipfert, wheelsup_cavu, Britchot and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonrd Posted April 19 Report Share Posted April 19 Looking bad... three of Razbam's programmers just quit. Klaiber 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaiber Posted April 19 Report Share Posted April 19 On their Discord, Razbam is still saying that they want a quick resolution. They also said they don't want to hurt ED or DCS, as they're Razbam's primary business partner. So, I'm still hopeful they'll figure things out. But of course, it's hard to know what is actually going on. Erhardt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Spackler Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 I mean c'mon let's be real they're a 3rd party flight sim developer. They don't have a lot of places to go (DCS and MSFS), so they better work it out. Those communities are bit but not that big. wheelsup_cavu and Klaiber 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonrd Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 True. But with their employees quitting (and good game programmers have lots of options and will probably just move on to something else), I wouldn't be surprised if Razbam folded. How many people actually work there? Three quitting is probably a pretty big hit. Erhardt, wheelsup_cavu and Klaiber 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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