Klaiber

Thanks Game.

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/53395-whats-next/page/7/?tab=comments#comment-816647

Is it wrong to say I want this?

So, boo:

I think I found the open world game for me:

Haha. Unfortunately, I didn't register. Too much going on with new house. Though... I'm dying to fly Flying Circus with the group! I'm like a bad penny. Always turning up.

Once I get them, I may have to pick your brain a bit regarding set up. I hope you don't mind. :)

I actually just bought some Monstertech table mounts. They haven't arrived yet, but I'll definitely let you know what I think when I get them.

Very cool, thanks for the explanation!

Is it "To Valhalla"?

Wow, what a set up!

Added: Heinrich's FC skins by Heinrich (7 September 2019)

Btw: would you be able to send me your personal emblem(s)? I'd like to add it to the Oesau and Richthofen rosters. Thanks!

These are great Heinrich! Really nice stuff. Got em!

Very nice!

Thought I'd bump the thread again.

Hi KombatKoch, great to hear from you! Thanks so much for checking us out. I'll drop you an email tonight, sent to the address you registered with. Looking forward to talking more.

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Have safe travels Hess!

WOW, talk about an amazing view!

Sounds like you guys had a good meeting. What you've outlined works for me. Whatever naming convention you use is fine, provided all skins use the same system. :)

I don't see it as nit-picking. This is an important topic for exactly the reason you mentioned. Vonrd, Butzzell, Hess and Baron have put a lot of work into these skins, and it would be crappy if no one saw them because of confusion within the skins folder. For me, it's important that we figure out what we're doing in-house first. Once we have everything standardized and locked-in, we can then push those skins out to the community at-large. And then be assured that people actually have access to the correctly named files. They may not use them, but they'll have the ability to should they choose. I 100% agree. Someone is always going to try and top ours. So, just get them near the top and together. Personally, I think the exclamation marks are the way to go. I also 100% agree. Regardless of what changes, the files should all start the same way and not change. !JG1_ or something similar would work very well. I agree that there should be standardized suffixes to identify multiple skins under one pilots name. I think _A, _B, _C, _D, etc. works well. You could also use _v1, v2, v3, v4, etc. I perfer numbers because there is no cap, unlike the 26 letters. However, if a pilot has 26 different skins for the same aircraft, they have bigger issues. So, personally, If I was going to name the skins for a united JG1 pack, I wouldn't use: A_FDr1_JG1_Luftritter_J10.dds Instead, I'd go with !JG1_FDr1_Luftritter_v1.dds. And your second one would be !JG1_FDr1_Luftritter_v2.dds. With version 1 not deleted. Rather, retained in the pack for future use. Regardless though, I think since Vonrd is the primary skinner, his skin folder should be the folder of record. So whatever he goes with is what we should as well.

Our computers use ASCII code to categorize characters. They do this alphanumerically, with special characters coming first before numbers or letters. The exclamation point is second only to the space key. As a result I often prioritize files I want to see with an exclamation point. And the more I want to prioritize it, the more exclamation points I use. For example, !!!Klaiber comes before !!Klaiber comes before !Klaiber comes before 1Klaiber comes before aKlaiber comes before Klaiber. Not sure if this helps.

These types of errors are going to be chronic problems. The easiest way forward (as far as I can see it) is to say that Vonrd's data\graphics\skins\ folder is the folder of record for JG1. And that whatever he has is what we should all have. This way, even if there are spelling errors or labeling mistakes, we all have the same spelling errors or labeling mistakes. Additionally, I would think that we should stop posting small updates for download. Yes, post images of the new stuff. But, every time we update, a link should be provided for the the entire skins folder for download. With clear instructions to overwrite existing files. And if the link can be the same as what was provided before, even better. This way, we can minimize inconsistencies and prevent people from getting the wrong skins by clicking on a necro post. Just spit-balling.

Added: FC skins August 2019 (PART 2) by Vonrd (10 August 2019) [Note: overwrite existing files]