Flanders in Flames Fall campaign 2019

[Butzzell 1,541]

S! All

Leaves are dropping. Days are shorter. There is a chill in the air. Bullets are flying. Bombs are dropping.

It must be Flanders in Flames Fall Campaign 2019.

 

All the particulars are posted under FiF tournament information.

Of special note will be the map for this series. If you have flown Jasta 5's excellent series "Bloody April" you will recognize it as the northern half of that area. We have not used this area for an FiF. We use it now because of the great variety of rivers, roads and rail roads. The plane set will be early: N-17, N-17 GB, Strutter, RE8, Halb D.II, Halb Cl2 and Roland Cl2.

 

We will have a Dry Run on 5, October, 2019 at the usual time.

 

Edited September 26, 2019 by Butzzell

[Butzzell 1,541]

S! ALL,

 

Practice server is up.

[=GenMarkof007= 851]

S! Butzzell,

Again, I want to take a minute to thank Butzzell for all the hard work preparing these events so that we can go in the sky and have fun each weekend of the FIF event.
If I could create a JG1 medal, this would go to Butzzell and Kliegmann that work many hours per week so that we can have fun over the sky of Europe and Russia!

If you can, try to take some time to say thanks to all that works behind these events that JG1 or other squadron organize!

Cheers,
Gen

PS: Butzzell, my offer to donate a new game is always available... think about it!

[=GenMarkof007= 851]

S! Butzzell,

At what time do we meet again!
Was it at 1pm or 2pm eastern time?

Cheers,
Gen

[J2_Trupobaw 39]

Just a thought, but a big one:

N17 is bit overpowered against Halb D.II, but the nerfed Tripehound would be much closer match. We didn't see much Triplane action since 2014 (duh!) and I think a Tripe vs Halb FiF will be opportunity to fly something new and unexplored in RoF (and more balanced than N.17 vs D.II)..

[US103_Tobin 2,248]

50 minutes ago, J2_Trupobaw said:

N17 is bit overpowered against Halb D.II

By the way you worded that, it is unclear whether you mean that the N17 has too much power compared to the Halb D.II, or that you think it is overwhelmed by the Halb D.II's performance.  I am guessing that you mean the latter?

The N17 is quite a bit faster than the Halb, and climbs quite a bit better, too.  It also takes a lot of damage without any reduction in performance.  The British version is available if you want a faster rate of fire and the ability to shoot from below.  The N17 is certainly harder to fly....but once you master it can beat a Halb one on one every time.  The rest is determined by the teamwork and tactics of each team.

[DeFreest Larner 276]

N17 is very hard to fly. The adverse yaw is seriously nasty in that plane - not very many pilots at all can fly it well. I'm much more worried about  Rolands with twin rear guns. They'll slaughter everything. 

Either way, looking forwards to it! 

 

[US103_Tobin 2,248]

The N17 is the only scout in the current matchup that can actually keep pace with the 2-seaters it is up against; it's speed and that of it's opponent 2-seaters is for all intents and purposes the same (without bombs on), depending on what version of N17 you fly (the British version is 2 Kph slower at 1,000 m than the synchronized gun versions).

The Halb is 17 -23 Kph slower than it's 2-seater opponents at that same altitude.  I actually feel kinda sorry for the Central side in that respect.  Don't forget how points are scored in FiF.

I find that the Tripehound is almost, if not just as difficult to fly as the N17.  They both have terrible precession and even full left rudder is often inadequate to keep the nose down in tight left turns.  However, it makes some difference how you have the trim wheel set in the Tripe.

In this iteration of FiF, the 2-seaters ARE by far the most dangerous.  You could get into any of them and just fly them as scouts, Brisfit-style....if they're not loaded down with bombs or excess fuel, and you have some spare ones to use.  Personally, I might just wave at them as they go by    unless I have a LOT of friends to help who are in the correct position to do so.

[DeFreest Larner 276]

I feel just as bad for Halbs against twin-gun Sopwiths as I do for N17s against twin-gun Rolands! It's one thing to catch it, but then you have to avoid being blasted in the face  

Not a fan of the Tripehound or the N17, but I find the 17 much harder. If it decides to snap you out of that left turn then you completely lose control for a few precious seconds...not to mention that sometimes it'll refuse to go left in the first place! The British one is even worse IMO. They're definitely both 'specialist' planes. The Halb isn't the easiest little scout to fly either when it decides to wingtip stall. Should make for some interesting match-ups! 



 

[US103_Tobin 2,248]

At this point I'll say nothing about response curves   

[Butzzell 1,541]

S! All

 

Hostilities begin this Saturday, 12, October 2019 at 2 pm Eastern USA time.

Blue team is flying Central and Red team is Entente,

Good luck to all !

[EmerlistDavjack 243]

I with Larner on hating the N17 even with Luft's unspoken...things. 

I plan on showing up this weekend. It's been awhile!  I'm caught in the California power outage but I have a generator that runs off my big propane tank and I can bundle gaming time in with refrigerator time.  😎

[Vonrd 1,952]

I'm going to miss it this week. Going to see my mom for her 94th birthday.

[HotleadColdfeet 1,187]

I too will be unable to make it this week, but I eagerly anticipate flying FiF next week. It will be my first time back in FiF after a year and a half, so yeah...super looking forward to it! 🤩

[Etzel 471]

Will try to make it tomorrow, although as usually probably ~1 hour late...

[Heinrich 567]

If the morphine pill doesn't play tricks I'm present. Maybe I could fly with J6 in a N17 (must start somewhere).

But when needed elsewhere I'm fine with that, but please not a Spy mission with the Strutt, an "Elbe" pilot had a greater chance on return.

[Butzzell 1,541]

S! All

 

Brief update.

 A target subtitle was found to have the correct name but wrong location. Corrected. 

The "Bridge Killed" message was being displayed during the first target list update after the flare. 

This was thought to be a subtitle error. Nope. A counter error. Nope. A display array error. Nope. A bad truck.Nope. A bad bridge? Yup. The AAA truck was not going up on the bridge. It was going through the bridge and into the river where it died and gave a "Killed" message to the counter. The bridge had to be changed for a different model.

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[Butzzell 1,541]

S! All

Yes another subtitle error now fixed.

 

Major problem. Invisible object was found at Prison 1 on the Entente side. We saw these on the England side of the Channel map.   GameCock, sent me pictures of location. Normally I place a water tower there to show people where it is. This time I removed the Aerodrome structures and replaced it with a different model. It worked !  Invisible object gone. 

The invisible object is some sort of problem with the model and skin of one of the aerodrome hangar models/skins.

[Butzzell 1,541]

S! All

 

Congratz to Blue team in a hard fought win for Phase A. We had some great fights. It was a real nail biter right down to the last few minutes.

 

Next week starts Phase B. Blue team is Central, Red team is Entente and we get new planes.

 

[=GenMarkof007= 851]

5 minutes ago, Butzzell said:

Next week starts Phase B. Blue team is Central, Red team is Entente and we get new planes.

S! Butzzell,

If possible, can you have the FIF practice MP server up in the week so we can try the new planes before Saturday.
Same for the Friday Nights.

Cheers,
Gen

[Butzzell 1,541]

S!

Practice server is up and will stay up all week.

[Butzzell 1,541]

S! All

 

Not sure what happened with the massive game server connection lost event. The server did not go down and was not affected.

There was a lot of confusion. People were caught off guard about what to do. FiF Administrators are looking things over and will have some decision in a few days.

 

Definition  of few:  More than 1, less than 6.

[Butzzell 1,541]

S! All

Admins have looked over the rules and the rules say the score stands as is.

The result is that the admins have thrown out the rules and rightly so. Session 1 has been scrubbed from the records. Session 1 will be re-flown on the next regular scheduled time.

The massive disco due to unknown causes was too much to to accept. The event is designed around fair play. The missions on each side are not the same and many missions require special planes. The loss of these planes and the time limit of the session resulted in a completely unacceptable situation.

 

Special note:  Any targets destroyed or missions completed after the "Hostilities are over" subtitle are not counted towards the score.  This keeps the time available to complete missions the same for both teams.

[J5_Gamecock 263]

Question. Since the 11/9 mission is to be reflown, will we be using the odd or even map for the session on 11/16?

[Butzzell 1,541]

S! All

 

The Admins have not been able to find why we have the disconnect from game server.  The game server has not changed. The server files have not changed. We are running the same mission we did in phase A. Only the planes and some subtitles have been changed.  We run the server for FC Thursday night flyin. We often have thirty or more people online and we do not see the disconnect error.

 

Plan moving forward:

November 23 at the usual time we will run Session 2. Red team is Entente, Blue team is Central. At least targets will be in new places. IF, big IF this session is OK, then we will try session 3 on December 7 at the usual time. IF this session is OK, then we will use the scores from these two sessions and that will be the end of the Fall Campaign.

Should the November 23 have the disconnect problem we will end the fall campaign at that time.

 

Sorry for the problems.

JG1_Butzzell_J11